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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:43 am |
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remember which way round they go, and where all the springs go, can be easy to forget..take photos. it helps.
they are probably self adjusting, so back them off all they way, b4 installing new ones.
And check under wheel cylinder rubbers, cause I bet they leaking too.
Which will stuff ya new shoes fast
And have hand brake off before fitting,
or you wont get drums on.
FRirst pump of brakes will go low, but then they will adjust themselves
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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jimny_timmy wrote: monkey wrote: Ok i got new brake shoes today....i have not put them on yet cus i have never change shoes before.... so where do i start? Is it just a matter of sliding the old one's straight out? Or what?  Take the wheels off 
Can't i do it with the wheel's on?

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Mike57

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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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Take photos of both sides before you start. Also it is normal for the leading and trailing shoes on each side to be different sizes. I am not sure about Japanese builds but most of the Australian cars that I have worked on were different. Check that out and make sure they go in the correct way.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Cheer's Chris and Mike.
How do i back them off?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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monkey wrote: jimny_timmy wrote: monkey wrote: Ok i got new brake shoes today....i have not put them on yet cus i have never change shoes before.... so where do i start? Is it just a matter of sliding the old one's straight out? Or what?  Take the wheels off  Can't i do it with the wheel's on? 
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:53 am |
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Get yourself a workshop manual, has good tips. $10 on ebay.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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monkey wrote: Cheer's Chris and Mike.
How do i back them off?
never looked inside a jimny drum,
on a sierra it was crank a little ratchet thing back in,
that ran between the shoes,
so shoes dropped away from drums.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:04 am |
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just under the top spring is where my Vits self adjuster was.
It will be obvious how to adjust it back.
The shoes are held in with funny clips,
push and turn to release.

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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 am |
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 Sounds ease enough...
So that's tomorrow's after noon gone 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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PS once you have done this 5 or 6 times,
you will be screaming for discs  )
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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monkey wrote: 8) Sounds ease enough... So that's tomorrow's after noon gone 
Mums comin for lunch,
so I only get half a day in garage
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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christover1 wrote: PS once you have done this 5 or 6 times, you will be screaming for discs  )
On the cards 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i wonder if the JML floater kit (minus the axle lengths) would fit the jimny? and if so, do the rear drums have an ABS sensor that needs adapting also?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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alien wrote: i wonder if the JML floater kit (minus the axle lengths) would fit the jimny? and if so, do the rear drums have an ABS sensor that needs adapting also?
I think JML is going to do a full floating rear for Jimny's any way 
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:58 am |
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Make sure you loosen off the handbrake adjustment at the lever before you start. Jimny has self adjusting drums but they clog with mud. You'll need to clean and make sure the ratchet mechanism works freely.
Get ready to swear a bit.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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How long dose it take to change them....i got about 3 hours of sun light after work and that's it....
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:10 am |
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15 minutes a side....
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Help!!!
I got the d-side done no issues there...
Onto the passenger side....i got the old shoes out, got the new one's in, then i put the spring on with the adjuster thing....yeh that's fine...went to put the pin in for the hand brake cable, then the spring with the adjuster come out  now i can't get it back in  i have no farking idea if i have done it in the right order, here's how i did it:
-Take old pads out
- sit new pads in place then put the spring with the adjust thing on
-put lower spring on
-put pin in
-now i don't know what to do
Now im stuck is that the right order to do it? 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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did you screw the adjuster back???
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:53 pm |
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steak_knife wrote: did you screw the adjuster back???
yeh so it's all the way in?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Told you you'd be tempted to swear
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:55 pm |
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zukenutter wrote: Told you you'd be tempted to swear
The house brick wall copped a hammer last night 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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monkey wrote: steak_knife wrote: did you screw the adjuster back??? yeh so it's all the way in?
yes........
Pull it all apart & start your step's again....
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:13 pm |
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Brut force wins every time armsup
I tried to get the spring in one last time with Brut force and i won 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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rear discs are getting closer 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:03 pm |
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New pads, different diff center and new wheel bearings...but it's still making noises  what else could be causing the noises? Drums out of round?  Really starting to shit me now..... 
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suzooky87
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don't worry mate, your not the only one who had trouble with these drums..........worst job ever!!!!!
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Just wild thoughts... Any visible signs of metal to metal contact between shoes and drum, or is the backing plate bent outward a bit and contacting the edge of the drum?
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Oh, and how does the handbrake work on a rear disc brake conversion with those Zanfi kits?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:38 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: Just wild thoughts... Any visible signs of metal to metal contact between shoes and drum, or is the backing plate bent outward a bit and contacting the edge of the drum?
That was my first thought...but i could not see any paint missing on the backing plate or the out side of the drum...so it must be the pads touching the inside of the drums even with the hand brake off
Oh, and i think you would have to have a sierra t-case with a transmission brake( i think that's what there called?) for it to work?
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