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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Ha Fooled you all already. you all thought this was another Jimny thread!
So anywho now that i've had my fun. My LWB Vit, has developed a wobble in the steering. So far this is what i've tried
-New Inner & Outer Tierods
-New Draglink
-Wheel Balance / Alignment
-New Wheel Bearings.
-Flushed all the old P/s fluid out for new stuff
Currently Running 31 x 11.5 R15 (rims are -23) Mickey Thompson Baja Claws on a 3" Calmini Suspension setup with a 2" Body Lift.
I was thinking about pulling the Steering box out and putting a Seal kit through it
http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=1615
as its the only thing i can think of thats causing this. and if that doesn't fix it maybe a RTC Dampner ( i've been advised that this should be a last resort as it tends to mask the problem rather than fix it )
Any other ideas?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:12 pm |
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what struts are you running?
have you checked to see if there is much run out on the rims?
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SQUIRREL
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:06 am Posts: 62 Location: ADELAIDE
Vehicle: 1995 swb vitara
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:47 am |
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Have you got access to stock rims/tyres to trial
The shake is it through the car or the steering wheel
Through the car could be a uni ??
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:48 am |
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SQUIRREL wrote: Have you got access to stock rims/tyres to trial
The shake is it through the car or the steering wheel Through the car could be a uni ?? No its just through the wheel, and no i don't have access to stock rims / tyres. atari4x4 wrote: what struts are you running?
have you checked to see if there is much run out on the rims?
Im not quite sure what you mean by this, could you explain further please 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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what struts are you running? eg OME, Calmini, Ironman etc... as in one could be seized.
run out is the wobble in the rim left to right/up & down when spinning it. Axial=side to side and Radial=up and down
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Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:07 am |
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Struts are : Dobinson 2" Lifted in the front and Calmini ones in the rear. they aren't seized i just checked them.
and from what i can tell everything looks normal in the "run out" department
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:11 am |
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What width are the rims? 11.5 is a pretty wide tyre for a hairdressers car 
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:14 am |
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they are on an 8" Rim.
Just so i've said it, the problems only occured in the last few weeks, have been running this combo of parts fine for the last 3months
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:16 am |
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Have you rotated wheels front to rear? What's the wear like on them? Even?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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stocker wrote: Struts are : Dobinson 2" Lifted in the front and Calmini ones in the rear. they aren't seized i just checked them.
and from what i can tell everything looks normal in the "run out" department
you'll need to measure run out with a dial indicator, you're eye probably wont pick it up unless it's mega bent or you have super human bionic vision.
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Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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i see... i'll go with the super human bionic vision then  ... i'll have to borrow one from work 2morro...
Really considering a SAS at the moment...
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atari4x4

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new or 2nd hand rims?
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stocker
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2nd hand rims. ones i got off Brett
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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could quite well be a slight buckle in the rim or an egged tyre, i know my speedy desert rat rims had a fair bit of runout brand new before even having tyres fitted.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Also might be a good time to mention that she is still lifting one of the front wheels when you come round a corner and give it a boot full... thinking the rear coils might be a smidgen soft...
I was thinking of maybe putting another set of coils in the rear with a 2" Lift and getting a 1" Spacer... has anyone else had troubles with the coils being too soft?
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Vits93

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Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:42 am Posts: 233 Location: Nowra NSW
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stocker wrote: Also might be a good time to mention that she is still lifting one of the front wheels when you come round a corner and give it a boot full... thinking the rear coils might be a smidgen soft...
I was thinking of maybe putting another set of coils in the rear with a 2" Lift and getting a 1" Spacer... has anyone else had troubles with the coils being too soft?
Mine are way too soft too, especially when packed for camping bottoms out over hi-way bumps pretty bad.
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:26 am |
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Have your front tyres scolloped?? As in uneven were it's happend in my mates cruser do a rotation and see if that helps
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
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Have your front tyres scolloped?? As in uneven were it's happend in my mates cruser do a rotation and see if that helps
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SQUIRREL
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:06 am Posts: 62 Location: ADELAIDE
Vehicle: 1995 swb vitara
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:01 am |
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At what speed does it shake at
Slow speed around 25-50 kmh could be rim/tyre runout
Above that could be balance maybe lost a wheel weight
The exception being a scalloped tyre
As above try the rotation
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:08 am |
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Will definitely try the wheel rotation, all the tyres are pretty well rooted, just saving up now for the new set now... Was also thinking about getting some Smaller rims ( 15 x 7 ) still with a big neg offset though...
cant decide whether to go 235 / 75's or just man up with the 31x10.5's.
i think the 11.5's are a bit wide as they scrub on the chassis rail even with the massive offset.
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