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Cavalav
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:30 am |
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I have a set of cheap SCA one spot and spread and retrofit a hid kit off eBay into them, they're freakn bright.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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Freakn bright doesn't put the light where it needs to be.
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
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i got 2x narva 72723's on my bar and omg its day light lol
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Cavalav
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Perth
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fordem wrote: Freakn bright doesn't put the light where it needs to be.
Beam pattern wasn't overly effected actually but even the spill is brighter than stock halogens
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Ive got a set from SCA, the nite stalker ones. For the price i dont reckon youd get much better!
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Cavalav
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Ranger
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 Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:48 am |
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bazook wrote:
They look insanely bright from the pics, I was thinking of hooking up a bike light but didn't know how to eliminate the strobe etc. That and I don't know if I have the skills.... If you want to try your skills and want cheap led components etc try www.dealextreme.com they have HEAPS of led stuff but shipping to austraia is a nightmare I waited for two months for one order!
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:47 pm |
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Cavalav wrote: fordem wrote: Freakn bright doesn't put the light where it needs to be. Beam pattern wasn't overly effected actually but even the spill is brighter than stock halogens
Which would suggest that the lights were cheap to begin with.
There are expensive lights, inexpensive lights & cheap lights - expensive ones are, well expensive and you get your moneys worth, inexpensive ones will work reasonably well, in some cases almost as well as the expensive ones for a lot less, cheap ones are another story, there are many, many cheap lights out there, most of them coming out of China, that have no beam pattern to speak of, they scatter light everywhere except where you need it - put a brighter light and the scatter that too.
Unless you have used good lights you'll never understand what I'm saying - this is one instance where you just have to see it for yourself.
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Cavalav
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Ranger
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 Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:28 pm |
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Yeah mate, I'm not trying to compare cheap lights with expensive ones, they're expensive because they're better. I just done a 55w hid conversion to a mates lite force and you can't compare SCA lights to them. I was just saying if you had spotlights (SCA or other cheapies) then putting a cheap hid kit in them will be far better bang for buck.
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Sandez
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 16 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: '07 Auto Jim - Black
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Cavalav wrote: bazook wrote: They look insanely bright from the pics, I was thinking of hooking up a bike light but didn't know how to eliminate the strobe etc. That and I don't know if I have the skills.... If you want to try your skills and want cheap led components etc try www.dealextreme.com they have HEAPS of led stuff but shipping to austraia is a nightmare I waited for two months for one order!
I had the same issue with my lights with having low and strobe modes. I have managed to eliminate the modes to have high only. Ill be posting the details how on the link above soon.
I will try and get a comparison shot with HIDs and Halogen spotties, but as I have taken the spotties off, as I am selling the car to upgrade, it will be a few months before the pics will come.
But please be mindful when looking and comparing beamshots from other people, the camera settings play a big difference in how things look.
In case people missed the link here. Here are some beam shots.
High beam
4x LED Spotlights
The spotlights

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Dale
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:42 am Posts: 80 Location: Brisbane
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
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I have some $70 SCA on mine, they are cheap as hell and it shows, but they are water tight in my experience, rains water and splashing. I haven't submerged them entirely. I turn them on and I can see better so they are effective for my $70, not just for show.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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Cavalav wrote: Yeah mate, I'm not trying to compare cheap lights with expensive ones, they're expensive because they're better. I just done a 55w hid conversion to a mates lite force and you can't compare SCA lights to them. I was just saying if you had spotlights (SCA or other cheapies) then putting a cheap hid kit in them will be far better bang for buck.
And I'm saying that it won't ...
I'm saying don't waste your money on cheap lights, and don't waste you money putting cheap HID kits into cheap lights.
For what you spend on a cheap light and a cheap HID kit you can get an inexpensive light that actually puts the light where you NEED it to be, rather than bright and everywhere else.
I've seen cheap HID retrofits and like you say they're freakn bright, and I've driven cars with factory HIDs - there's a significant difference - freakn bright does you no good unless the light is where it's needed.
Like I said - you're never going to understand it until you use a good light.
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Cavalav
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Perth
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Champ, I put my OPINION in this as an option for people to consider. So calm ya farm. Not everyone can afford expensive lights. I've done a few conversions on cheap and expensive lights, same result they all like hid better. So in fact I have seen good lights (hard to believe I know). I didn't know you felt this strongly on the matter.
@Dale do those light throw very far ? Or better suited to reversing/ work lights?
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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Sandez wrote: Cavalav wrote: bazook wrote: They look insanely bright from the pics, I was thinking of hooking up a bike light but didn't know how to eliminate the strobe etc. That and I don't know if I have the skills.... If you want to try your skills and want cheap led components etc try www.dealextreme.com they have HEAPS of led stuff but shipping to austraia is a nightmare I waited for two months for one order! I had the same issue with my lights with having low and strobe modes. I have managed to eliminate the modes to have high only. Ill be posting the details how on the link above soon. I will try and get a comparison shot with HIDs and Halogen spotties, but as I have taken the spotties off, as I am selling the car to upgrade, it will be a few months before the pics will come. But please be mindful when looking and comparing beamshots from other people, the camera settings play a big difference in how things look. In case people missed the link here. Here are some beam shots. High beam  4x LED Spotlights  The spotlights 
Jeez  those LED spots sure throw out some decent light, and pretty far as well ! 
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foolsp33d
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2123 Location: Deep Inside Jamies Mouth
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_________________ Roads... Where we're going we dont need Roads....
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Jesus... Bit of money there?
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foolsp33d
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2123 Location: Deep Inside Jamies Mouth
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freakin eh!
front n rear lockers...easily..
kinda the opposite end of the spectrum compared to the SCA lights originally mentioned!
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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 Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:31 am |
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Yeah my led lights were $1500 each rrp
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