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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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what does every one recomend a front locker or a rear locker or both ?
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ellis
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am Posts: 445 Location: GYMPIE QLD
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:14 am |
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what type of locker's r u looking at and how much do u have to spend and what car is it
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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well it is a 95 sierra wt soft top on leaf springs atm i dont have much and i was looking at getting the cheap ones of ebay i was thinking just a front air locker but i m not sure
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ellis
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am Posts: 445 Location: GYMPIE QLD
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weld the rear and put a locker in the front what size tyres r u running?
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ellis
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am Posts: 445 Location: GYMPIE QLD
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or spool the rear
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:33 am |
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idk what size tyres they are and what does spool do sorry just getting to the 4wd side of things
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Something familiar about this thread 
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:43 am |
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sounds like you gotta go wheel some b4 you buy lockers
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:45 am |
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well i just want to no what spool is and what it does
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Benz wrote: sounds like you gotta go wheel some b4 you buy lockers
Couldn't agree more, go learn what your car can do & learn, LOT'S before you make you car allegedly more capable...
if you new to 4wding, a locker is the last thing you need.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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chris95 wrote: well i just want to no what spool is and what it does
Make's your car drive like shit on the road...... 
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now I'm not so sure.....
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:49 am |
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ohk then but still what does spool do to help will any one tell me
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:54 am |
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it conects both ur axles so ur constantly locked
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:58 am |
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thanks every one for your help but if i find i need a locker i m most likely to go a front locker and a winch just incase
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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You would be amazed at how far a Sierra with a bit of suspension work and decent tyres will go 
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:15 am |
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Rusho wrote: You would be amazed at how far a Sierra with a bit of suspension work and decent tyres will go 
Especially with a capable driver.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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learn to drive your car first, an unlocked sierra will go so many places if you know what lines to drive, once you've explored the limits in an unlocked car, maybe then start thinking about lockers.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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chris95 wrote: it suprised me today Hey chrisnice meeting you today. As for the lockers you will be surprise how far a stoker goes. The one we had today went pretty far. I'm with the other drive you car how it is for a while and see what it can do and can't.
Spool locks your diff constanltly. Its probs not what you want.
If you have money just start of with a auto in the rear then air in the front.
But I would drive your car until you find it's limit.
As for today. Lockers didn't really help in sloppy mud or clay. Momentum and the right line is the key 
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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yeah thanks and it was good but i would of love to gorn on but just didnt want to brake anything on my car as i was the only on that was pretty much stock comparied to the others i have to get a lift next and a winch
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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A locker will get you into trouble a winch gets you out of trouble.
Drove unlocked for 18 months before I got a rear auto lokka. It puts you into situations a lot quicker than open diffs.
Eg. Open diffs act as a bit of a fuse and tell you hey this ain't the best line as you're crossed up. Go back and pick a better line. Think wheel placement to keep the front level. It may take half a dozen goes but you learn lines.
Locked diffs on steep climbs loads up the rear wheels regardless of line and can drive you up and over. If you don't know this point from driving unlocked serious injury and expense can be the result.
Add a front locker and zukes just keep going.
Lockers however can make less impact on tracks as they sometimes prevent excessive wheel spin.
I have not yet comquered Little Red at Glasshouse locked but have driven it unlocked due to good instruction and line. (and a little luck)
I have recently added a front air locker and now feel I should have installed a cage/roll bar for added safety first.
My suggestion would be.
Tyres, gears, lift, winch, rollbar/cage, rear locker then front. JMO.
The best thing when first starting is wheel with someone with experience and patience. I owe a lot to Want33s for my early days of wheeling showed me what an opened diffed SWB Sierra can do just by line selection and correct momentum.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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x2. Going from opens to rear locked was a big/scary difference, if i didnt know how to drive and just jumped in a locked zook i'd flip it definitely.
Then going from rear locker to twin locked with reduction gears was insane, it just keeps driving 
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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DMAC wrote: A locker will get you into trouble a winch gets you out of trouble. Drove unlocked for 18 months before I got a rear auto lokka. It puts you into situations a lot quicker than open diffs. Eg. Open diffs act as a bit of a fuse and tell you hey this ain't the best line as you're crossed up. Go back and pick a better line. Think wheel placement to keep the front level. It may take half a dozen goes but you learn lines. Locked diffs on steep climbs loads up the rear wheels regardless of line and can drive you up and over. If you don't know this point from driving unlocked serious injury and expense can be the result. Add a front locker and zukes just keep going. Lockers however can make less impact on tracks as they sometimes prevent excessive wheel spin. I have not yet comquered Little Red at Glasshouse locked but have driven it unlocked due to good instruction and line. (and a little luck) I have recently added a front air locker and now feel I should have installed a cage/roll bar for added safety first. My suggestion would be. Tyres, gears, lift, winch, rollbar/cage, rear locker then front. JMO. The best thing when first starting is wheel with someone with experience and patience. I owe a lot to Want33s for my early days of wheeling showed me what an opened diffed SWB Sierra can do just by line selection and correct momentum.
a well written true story
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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zooky08 wrote: chris95 wrote: it suprised me today Hey chrisnice meeting you today. As for the lockers you will be surprise how far a stoker goes. The one we had today went pretty far. I'm with the other drive you car how it is for a while and see what it can do and can't. Spool locks your diff constanltly. Its probs not what you want. If you have money just start of with a auto in the rear then air in the front. But I would drive your car until you find it's limit. As for today. Lockers didn't really help in sloppy mud or clay. Momentum and the right line is the key 
X2
Well Said! 
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Bombero
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:46 pm Posts: 84 Location: Vic
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I say you are all pussies. Lock them both and go have some fun. Getting into scary possisions is what 4x4ing is about.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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Bombero wrote: I say you are all pussies. Lock them both and go have some fun. Getting into scary possisions is what 4x4ing is about. Some people appreciate there car 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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zooky08 wrote: Bombero wrote: I say you are all pussies. Lock them both and go have some fun. Getting into scary possisions is what 4x4ing is about. Some people appreciate there car 
He is Victorian...probably owns or has owned a patrol, be nice to him 
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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Bombero wrote: I say you are all old farts. Lock them both and go have some fun. Getting into scary possisions is what 4x4ing is about.
 Fixed it for ya.
and that my friend is called maturity.
PS. Living to tell the tale is even better. 
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Bombero
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:46 pm Posts: 84 Location: Vic
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Hahaha. Can't stand pootrols! I'm just having a dig while conveying my thoughts.
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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but they don't have scary tracks in Victoria, they don't even need roll bars 
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