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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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 plans I bought a lj80v and sj50 the sj's body just smashed but the chassis had brand new king springs and extended shackles and a drop down tank rockcrawler transfer and tonnes more. Then theirs the lj well the lj's body is in pretty good condiction put some idiot put a diesel that was a really bad fit and the springs look like they were out off a f truck. so the plan is to do a body swap sj chassis and lj body and sj engine,gearbox,transfer,diff, fueltank. So if any one has any ideas for while I'm building thanks. And il keep u guy informed while it happens 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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drop tank in a sierra
They're too low/in the way as it is!
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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What are you wanting to do with this thing when you're done?
You might be better off keeping the LJ in one piece and pissing off the diesel.
I can just imagine what the LJ crew will say about you putting a good condition LJ body onto a Sierra chassis 
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missmyljdaze
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 2323 Location: perth
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Damo wrote: What are you wanting to do with this thing when you're done? You might be better off keeping the LJ in one piece and pissing off the diesel. I can just imagine what the LJ crew will say about you putting a good condition LJ body onto a Sierra chassis 
it wont be complimentary, and very likely include much colourful and descriptive language.
personally, I would try and put the LJ back to how it should be.
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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Littlejeep is part the way into putting an LJ ute cab onto a 1L Sierra chassis. I can understand why he is doing it (his LJ81 chassis was rusty, and he wants a large tray area). However I think everything about the Sierra chassis is worse for a 4wd, and questionably better for much else..... A SWB LJ will also be significantly shorter than a SWB Sierra chassis, I think it will end up a bit of an ugly duckling unless you are awesome at panel work (stretching it).
All the Sierra springs will fit on the LJ if you prefer them. You can even make a Sierra transfer fit into the LJ with some work if you want the crawler gears. And hell, you could even fit the SIerra's engine and 5speed box to the LJ; it might sound like allot of work, but I reckon no more work than making the tub fit the chassis, and a far better end result in my book.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Told ya 
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Littlejeep has a LJ ute cab on a SJ ute chassis, some headaches involved for sure, and that's with traybacks. Sierra has a longer wheelbase so work involved to get wheels in wheelarches etc.
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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chassis are 10mm different. im getting it road werthy so i can class it as a body swap. but if i keep the lj's chassis i have to class it as an engine replacement tranfer replacement axle replacement brake replacement. so its a lot less hassel just doing a body swap don't ya think 
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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ow and the diesel has craped its self
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UBZ
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 297 Location: NZ
Vehicle: LJ50 , LJ80Q-II
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Putting a LJ Body on a SJ is sort of like putting a Ferrari Body on a VW Chassis
Id Put a Serria body on the the Serria chassis .... then its just a body swap.
Save the LJ . Don't Butcher it.
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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im not going to butcher the body im not changing any of the body
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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you wont fit the wheels on an SJ chassis in the wheel holes on an LJ, they are alot difference in wheel base
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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ya 10mm thats a lot
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tanshi

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unless the SJ has been shortened its more than 10mm,
I own both cars and i can tell you the wheel base difference is atleast 3-4 inches
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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the sj's a 1984 high top mate would u b able to check the cars for me please
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
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your car i ment and told me what it is
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Chassis dimensions
LJ -this site is cool http://www.offroadrunner.nl/home.html
Sj70 swb WT www.suzukiinfo.com
So with basic maths..
The SJ swb wheelbase is 2030mmlg
The LJ swb wheelbase is Around 1941mm(no definate measurements on that diagram)
itsabitmorethan10mmbrowhenisschoolholidays?
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tanshi

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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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Thank bud il see if I can make in work
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Cayden wrote: chassis are 10mm different. im getting it road werthy so i can class it as a body swap. but if i keep the lj's chassis i have to class it as an engine replacement tranfer replacement axle replacement brake replacement. so its a lot less hassel just doing a body swap don't ya think 
Nope, and nope. Just more mod codes, not more hassle.
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tonyevans

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Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 1998 Location: Lightning Ridge NSW
Vehicle: SJ40 - LJ50 - LJ50V - Vitara
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I will have a go at most things and have just been out and had a look at both the Zooks you are talking about (in my car lot) and while I think it could be done it would be far more trouble than it's worth I feel.
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Cayden
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Posts: 90 Location: Wynyard /Tasmania
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny
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It is il load some pics saturday
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jamiec
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:28 pm Posts: 52 Location: West Coast Tasmania
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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Highway-Star wrote: Littlejeep is part the way into putting an LJ ute cab onto a 1L Sierra chassis. I can understand why he is doing it (his LJ81 chassis was rusty, and he wants a large tray area). However I think everything about the Sierra chassis is worse for a 4wd, and questionably better for much else..... A SWB LJ will also be significantly shorter than a SWB Sierra chassis, I think it will end up a bit of an ugly duckling unless you are awesome at panel work (stretching it).
All the Sierra springs will fit on the LJ if you prefer them. You can even make a Sierra transfer fit into the LJ with some work if you want the crawler gears. And hell, you could even fit the SIerra's engine and 5speed box to the LJ; it might sound like allot of work, but I reckon no more work than making the tub fit the chassis, and a far better end result in my book. Because? 
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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Kas is talking wheelbase.  The chassis is the big let down on a Sierra over an LJ. A Sierra (any generation, eg an SJ40 chassis has different crossmembers to a 1.3l) has all sorts of things welded to the underside of the chassis as well as that giant rock anchor/transfer case. LJs have a flat bottom with nothing to get hung up on and no venerable mechanicals. Sierra chassis are wider and use larger tube, potentially resulting in less chassis flex(this is one highway-star goes on about a bit). The spring hangers are more intrusive in a Sierra, thus easier to get hung up on. LJ ones flow fairly neatly with the chassis. Sierra chassis has some rear over hang, which the LJ doesn't, giving a worse departure angle. There's a whole bunch of other things like LJs run narrower bumpstop spacing in the front (for more flex), have slightly longer front springs, much greater difference in roll centres (higher rear, lower front) ect. On the plus side, a Sierra mounts the engine/gearbox lower and further back, the body mounting outriggers are better placed (not to mention the body its self is mounted 9001x better) and the chassis aren't massively rust prone like LJ ones. Another thing that isn't the fault of the designers but certainly is a little bit of a pain, 100x50x2.5 (sierra chassis) is super easy to find, unlike 7somethingx45x2.5 (LJ) which is handy if you want to do chassis extensions and so on.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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