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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
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I might ask this stupid question nice and early in the day - I can't get my flares/guards off. I've soaked the screws/bolts/nuts in WD40 overnight but using a screwdriver i'm just stripping the heads. Before I sheer off any threads permanently into the guards - what's the best way to get em off?
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Hammer and chisel or clamp around head of screw with vice grips.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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Easy outs
There was a good tech thread on this I think.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Buy yourself a impact driver and smack the crap out of it. works 90% of the time and for the ones that are already stuffed a hammer and chisel.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Those flare bolts are a pita. I've only ever cut the heads off with a grinder and put new screws in.
Its because the threads face upwards, water goes in the threads, rust.
The flare sheet panels are too soft to hit them with anything..They will just bend with the force of a chisel on the bolt. You will have to be 'lucky'
So you've already got rust in the floor, These arnt going to be much better.
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Che

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:41 pm |
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Yeah - getting no purchase on the bolt with a chisel - flare flange bends just bends with the impact.
I dunno if it's worth me buying an impact drill, i'd only use it once every five years... I might try the panel beaters or tyre shop and see if they'll have a go
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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che_guitarra wrote: Yeah - getting no purchase on the bolt with a chisel - flare flange bends just bends with the impact.
I dunno if it's worth me buying an impact drill, i'd only use it once every five years... I might try the panel beaters or tyre shop and see if they'll have a go
impact driver
hit with hammer and durn bolt though force about $30 from most stores
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Boneheimer

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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:50 am Posts: 228 Location: Cairns
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Nothing but drilling them out worked for me, rusted at the back of the screws as Bluesuzy said.
Drill head off, vice grips to pull out from the back
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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They way I've attacked them.
1. Impact driver. If it strip the star out of the head. try -
2. Use cutoff wheel to make a slot in the head. Use Impact driver flat bit attachment.
99% sucsess rate.
3. Grind off head. drill and tap new thread.
Replace with stainless hex bolts and use locktite 771.
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masterA

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Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 am Posts: 976 Location: Perth
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Get an impact screwdriver and then whilst you're hitting it with a hammer keep turning it (simultaniously)...you can also use a normal screwdriver too or just get what TZAR said
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tonyevans

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Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:18 pm Posts: 1998 Location: Lightning Ridge NSW
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I have found that cutting a slot across the head with a thin blade in the angle grinder and then a whack with an impact screwdriver (above) works every time - no exceptions - The combination of the heat from the grinder and better purchase with the slot blade seems to be the answer.
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zookini

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Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 17 Location: perth
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Drill through the heads with a 6mm drill bit and they just pop off then vice grips from the back once there off
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Mine were far from fucked, i ended up drilling em out and putting stainless bolts through it with spring washers.
Alot better imo 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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abclarke wrote: Mine were far from fucked, i ended up drilling em out and putting stainless bolts through it with spring washers. Alot better imo 
Nylon lock nuts with a dab of threadlocker would be the brest bet.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
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TZAR wrote: che_guitarra wrote: Yeah - getting no purchase on the bolt with a chisel - flare flange bends just bends with the impact.
I dunno if it's worth me buying an impact drill, i'd only use it once every five years... I might try the panel beaters or tyre shop and see if they'll have a go impact driver  hit with hammer and durn bolt though force about $30 from most stores
Malz had those for $18 last time I checked. ^^^ Go grab one che!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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weld a nut to that bad boy and undo it while it is still hot.

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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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shep wrote: weld a nut to that bad boy and undo it while it is still hot.
Work's a treat.....
But all the others work to....
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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What a freakin mission!!! 10 hours later I have 4 flares off, no snapped off bolts, and i'm a couple of tools richer  Every single one of the carnts were seized.
Even though the guards were chokkas with mud, not a single spot of rust to be found. Winning 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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and i thought this thread was going to be about Prison Guards... 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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atari4x4 wrote: and i thought this thread was going to be about Prison Guards... 
I've met some you wouldn't fuck with... 
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Che

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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FML, how can I get this bloody thing out without taking off the panel - I can't pull it through, and fcuked if i'm just gonna leave it there
FYI there's two screws there, no idea how they got there
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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ROFL - use a really strong magnet wrapped in paper towel to grab the bolt and draw it up the panel gap to the top =D
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Loose ya hinges tight ass 
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:02 pm |
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You should see how many empty .22LR cartridges I have floating around in various panel gaps and down the air vents ... a screw or two is nothing!! 
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