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Liljim

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Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 94 Location: Ballarat.
Vehicle: Jimny!
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Hi,
The missus just bought a new car, and while we were at the dealer i noticed the lack of jimnys....
Apparently they are no longer able to be complied in any Australian state as of the end of this year!
He said that suzuki have no plans of filling it's spot with anything else.
Can everyone stop rolling jimnys now? We don't want them to run out.
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
Vehicle: 07 vvt jimny
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they had a good run 12 years or so of the jimny badge and shape  :D should be more than enough for parts in the future lol.
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Jimny's Are taking Over
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:37 am |
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OH NO!
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/melbourn ... 1gu3x.html
This is old news, how did we not know?
I wonder how this will effect imports? They should still pass the "already partialy compliant rules", but I wonder if you will be allowed to import them if they are manufactured >2012.
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:49 am |
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Um we did know its been on here before, not sure other states will bring in the law as quick as victoria's all new cars must have traction control.
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: On the lookout
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They have had a good run. There was a distinct lack of jimnys since about June this year, but just recently my local dealer is now fully stocked up with about 4 or 5, but they are askign waaaaaayyy too much. like 23- 24K. You'd have to be off your head to buy a jimny brand new, but hey, it's keeping the used prices high so no complaints.
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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meh, I might just import my current Jimny when I come back to and convert it, get other engineering stuff done while Im at it. Im sure not many of the ones you guys roll will need the dash, getting a power steering box might be even harder now, but I can probably try and get a LHD highlux one from here before I come back.
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Mike57

az supporter
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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My understanding of the rules is that vehicles without stability control cannot be registered in Victoria if they have a build date after 2010 and for the rest of Australia it takes effect in 2012. Unless the manufacturer has sought an exemption they cannot be registered and this will mean any vehicle that you directly import as well. So unless Suzuki add stability control they will be withdrawn from sale in Australia totally from next year. If you live in Victoria then a 2010 is the last model that can be registered even in it comes from another state and for all other states it is 2011 which is the last model that you will see.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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the Victorian stuff says cannot register NEW, second hand ones after the date appear to be fine
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Liljim

az supporter
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 94 Location: Ballarat.
Vehicle: Jimny!
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:27 am |
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Mike57 wrote: My understanding of the rules is that vehicles without stability control cannot be registered in Victoria if they have a build date after 2010 and for the rest of Australia it takes effect in 2012. Unless the manufacturer has sought an exemption they cannot be registered and this will mean any vehicle that you directly import as well. So unless Suzuki add stability control they will be withdrawn from sale in Australia totally from next year. If you live in Victoria then a 2010 is the last model that can be registered even in it comes from another state and for all other states it is 2011 which is the last model that you will see.
The dealer said it was for the compliance date after 2011 for all of aus, cars complied after 2010 without stability control couldn't be sold NEW in vic but second hand is fine. He said you can register an aus complied one in vic even if it was complied after 2010, it is just illegal for dealers to stock them. unfortunately he said that suzuki are not going to add stability control or fill the hole with anything similar...
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brindog

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Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1139 Location: Uki NSW
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Someone on Suzuki's Failbook page asked about it, and Suzuki Replied:
"The Jimny Sierra will not be sold in the state of Victoria in 2012, but it will still be available in every other Australian state. This is because the state of Victoria requires that all passenger vehicles and SUVs have standard ESC (Electronic Stability Control) since January 2011. In every other state, ESC will be mandatory for all passenger vehicles and SUVs only from November 2013.
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Mike57

az supporter
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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Here is the extract from the Vicroads site.
"Electronic Stability Control for interstate vehicles
If you moved to Victoria from interstate after 1 January 2011, and your vehicle has a compliance/identification plate date of January 2011 or after, it must have electronic stability control fitted to be registered in Victoria.
This ESC requirement applies to passenger cars, off-road passenger vehicles, and forward-control passenger vehicles e.g. passenger vans.
However, if your vehicle has been registered in another state or territory for 12 months or more, then it can be registered in Victoria, even if it does not have electronic stability control. You will need documentation to show that your vehicle has been registered for 12 months or more."
So this means that Royce is correct and you can register a 2011 Jimny in Victoria as long as it has been regsitered interstate for 12 months or longer.
Now if you want to import a post 1988 vehicle into Victoria you must have owned it overseas for 12 months or more. Without reading all the details this will make it difficult to personally import a Jimny from overseas. It seems like the 2011 Jimny's will be the last we see in Australia
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MADMANx511

az supporter
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:02 am Posts: 415 Location: Paddington, Brisbane, Qld
Vehicle: Ex-Owner
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End of an era. There's plenty of them around though, so parts for you Jimny-ers shouldn't be an issue.
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:11 am |
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MADMANx511 wrote: End of an era. There's plenty of them around though, so parts for you Jimny-ers shouldn't be an issue.
Not if monkey has anything to do with it 
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monley

az supporter
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Chop wrote: MADMANx511 wrote: End of an era. There's plenty of them around though, so parts for you Jimny-ers shouldn't be an issue. Not if monkey has anything to do with it 
Though i think your right! To date:
-One bent front diff
-One fuked gear box
-One bent draglink
-One smashed diff

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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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As a 2008 owner, I am not finding many late parts around.
Just a quick parts count for me...
2 broken front axles
Several broken front CV's
1 destroyed front housing and Right axle
2 destroyed rear R&P's
3 damaged rims (at least)
1 destroyed RH guard
1 destroyed RH wing mirror
1 destroyed AC comp front end
1 damaged AC fan
1 broken clock spring
1 complete left hand side damaged
1 broken transfer case mount
3 damaged front shocks
1 broken engine mount
2 broken/bent radius arms
1 destroyed clutch
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: On the lookout
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I broke one of my headlamp protectors while leaning over it.
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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squibby wrote: While we're comparing the lengths of our schlongs, I broke one of my headlamp protectors while leaning over it.
Thats embarrassing 
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:41 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: As a 2008 owner, I am not finding many late parts around.
Just a quick parts count for me...
2 broken front axles Several broken front CV's 1 destroyed front housing and Right axle 2 destroyed rear R&P's 3 damaged rims (at least) 1 destroyed RH guard 1 destroyed RH wing mirror 1 destroyed AC comp front end 1 damaged AC fan 1 broken clock spring 1 complete left hand side damaged 1 broken transfer case mount 3 damaged front shocks 1 broken engine mount 2 broken/bent radius arms 1 destroyed clutch
IMO 99% of that list is from lack of mechanical sympathy
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Nah i heard its only driven to bingo on thursday and church on sunday 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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IS "mechanical sympathy" the PC termanology for driving like a loon?
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Mike57

az supporter
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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Was down at the Suzuki dealer today and they advised that Jimny parts for body and mechanical will be available for at least another 10 years. Some of the accessories may be discontinued earlier.
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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they will still be produced in japan...
and shipped to most of the world
parts will be no problem really.
unless you want them fast...
buying direct from japan would properly be quicker
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Yeah, I never said it was because of manufacturer's defect  .
And if I wanted a bingo car, I wouldn't have bought a Jimny. The only way to find a car's limits is to test it  and test it!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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monley

az supporter
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Bugsta wrote: Yeah, I never said it was because of manufacturer's defect  . And if I wanted a bingo car, I wouldn't have bought a Jimny. The only way to find a car's limits is to test it  and test it!

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