[orangeshannon]

hi i was wonding how go are simex super swampers or simular type of tyre goes on the little zook? do they take abit to wear out on the road?

[joel]

great for mud. shite for rocks.
silverstones extreme117, same pattern as simex centipedes but cheaper, wear is reasonable, like most muddies on bituman.
but tyres wont make up for shit driving still.

[bohuler]

its been done to death before, the silverstone extreams at 31,10.5,15 are alot better then the simexs. better flex in the sidewall, better cost, better wear ect ect, im sure gwensteve will pipe in
Daveq

[orangeshannon]

yeh im just thinking i duno how good they are i just like the look of them haha and thinking when i get my next lwb zook just a few little things to do to it to make it look betterer and preform better not that zooks preform very well with nothing done to them like my ol girl

[Bucket]

Both me and my mate Oddjob run the Silverstones.
They DON'T bag like a regular muddy does. We had his set at 1psi all round and still no sidewall baggage.

I would recommend steering away from them on road as much as possible. Incredibly noisy, they wear fast, hard to turn with the 1.3 and lack any sense of on road manners.

That said, they're hard to go past in the mud.

[orangeshannon]

yeh i might even just look into a really good agressive looking mud terrain

[shep]

Bucket wrote:

Both me and my mate Oddjob run the Silverstones.
They DON'T bag like a regular muddy does. We had his set at 1psi all round and still no sidewall baggage.

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ya let tyres down so ya get a longer contact patch not a wider one

the back tyre has 7psi in it and i reckon the contact patch would be close to 20% of the total tread area.

[ajsr]

Bucket wrote:

Both me and my mate Oddjob run the Silverstones.
They DON'T bag like a regular muddy does. We had his set at 1psi all round and still no sidewall baggage.

I would recommend steering away from them on road as much as possible. Incredibly noisy, they wear fast, hard to turn with the 1.3 and lack any sense of on road manners.

That said, they're hard to go past in the mud.

just becasue you cant really see the side wall bag does not mean they are not working, they are bias ply and the side wall makeup is totally different to a radial.
its all about foot print lenght not width and how the tyre conforms to its terrain

[SierraDan]

Bucket wrote:

hard to turn with the 1.3.

Get better gearing. We all know a corolla motor pushing 44's.

[alien]

i wouldnt bother with them... i had them in 31" on my sierra and they were just scary... they absolutely SHINE in mud, but only enough that what i could crawl in 1st low someone with BFG KM2 could get through in second low with some revvs... on rocks, shale, sand and side slopes they suck ass and slip all over the place, usually putting you sideways on the hill being held onto the seat by your puckered bum hole.

[zooky08]

Km2 or kuhmo kl71

[Built4thrashing]

Silverstones are the best agressive mud there is for a sierra. I outdrove several better equipped sierras with my silverstones in the mud. They just chew their way through the slop alot better than some other agressive muds.

Shit in the snow
Average on gravel and rock
Ordinary on the HWY but so are most smodded sierra's

[Bucket]

SierraDan wrote:

Bucket wrote:

hard to turn with the 1.3.

Get better gearing. We all know a corolla motor pushing 44's.

Blah blah blah. I can sit on 100kmph all day everyday with my "goodride" muddies but struggle to keep 90 with the silverstones.
Gearing is good, but it's so noticeable how different they are to turn.

[orangeshannon]

yeh the car im looking at has got bfg muddies on it but i wouldnt mind getting a bigger size wheel and so i can put them on my baby sierra shes only got toyo open country AT's and they have taken me everywhere i wanted to go and they have accually shown off to some cruisers and patrols

[shep]

i love the silverstones, just bought my second set.

[orangeshannon]

they look like a great tyre might think about them after i get my next car

[Joshyboy26]

Get em! we all know simexs are the bomb!

[ajsr]

Built4thrashing wrote:

Silverstones are the best agressive mud there is for a sierra. I outdrove several better equipped sierras with my silverstones in the mud. They just chew their way through the slop alot better than some other agressive muds.

Shit in the snow
Average on gravel and rock
Ordinary on the HWY but so are most smodded sierra's

I'll 2nd this
Ive seen jas's old sierra drive some really shit slick massive red clay hills easily with silverstones and just a locked rear, mind you the 6-7K revs it was pulling might have helped clear the tyres out.

he still drives like a bitch though

[SierraDan]

Bucket wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

Bucket wrote:

hard to turn with the 1.3.

Get better gearing. We all know a corolla motor pushing 44's.

Blah blah blah. I can sit on 100kmph all day everyday with my "goodride" muddies but struggle to keep 90 with the silverstones.
Gearing is good, but it's so noticeable how different they are to turn.

Surely you do more than just drive on the freeway?
On standard gearing I did 130 with 31's. But it was a dog to drive anywhere else.

[suzukikid]

Im runnin the mongrels...a 32" tyre a cheap and nasty retread(cant get em anymore) but next i will get the silverstones....

[jonno_racing]

silverstones are great.. swampers are better allround tho.

[Built4thrashing]

ajsr wrote:

Built4thrashing wrote:

Silverstones are the best agressive mud there is for a sierra. I outdrove several better equipped sierras with my silverstones in the mud. They just chew their way through the slop alot better than some other agressive muds.

Shit in the snow
Average on gravel and rock
Ordinary on the HWY but so are most smodded sierra's

I'll 2nd this
Ive seen jas's old sierra drive some really shit slick massive red clay hills easily with silverstones and just a locked rear, mind you the 6-7K revs it was pulling might have helped clear the tyres out.

he still drives like a bitch though

And i was taking it easy that afternoon.

If the silverstones were available in the size i want for the GV ill get some when im due for some new rubber

[Red89]

bohuler wrote:

its been done to death before, the silverstone extreams at 31,10.5,15 are alot better then the simexs. better flex in the sidewall, better cost, better wear ect ect, im sure gwensteve will pipe in
Daveq

I have had a fair bit of success out of my 32" Simex Pedes in the local rock comps. Below is a pic of the sidewall flex of a Pede at 5 psi, they flexed over the terrain well enough for me. Havent had any experience with the Silverstones.

[Joshyboy26]

Are you sure thats 5 it looks so low! Without beadlocks tho youll bust em off the rim all the time if you run them that low. I run mine at about 10 without beadlocks and thats about as low as id wanna go, i pop one off the rim usually every second drive or so.

[alien]

i ran my simex at 6psi with no beadlocks... they were 31x10.5 on a 15x7 rim and never broke the bead. i did however have to run tubes cos they were big fans of getting shit in the bead and developing a slow leak.

[Red89]

alien wrote:

i ran my simex at 6psi with no beadlocks... they were 31x10.5 on a 15x7 rim and never broke the bead. i did however have to run tubes cos they were big fans of getting shit in the bead and developing a slow leak.

X 2 except the running tubes part, never lost a tyre at 5 psi without beadlocks but did tend to get shit in the bead. Plus in that pic the drivers side rear is ramped so the majority of the cars wieght is on the passenger side front and pushing it over, however it does show that the sidewall on them is plenty soft enough

[Joshyboy26]

Yh thats my problem, i always get shit in the bead so its not really the pressure but the slow leak that you only realise once its too late.
Bit of a hijack but can u get some sort of guard to stop this or are beadlocks the go?

[Red89]

With mine being a trailer queen it means slow leaks werent really an issue so long as they held up for the few days I was wheeling. There was only one comp were I had to break the bead and clean it out on the side of the track, but we were doing alot high speed loose gravel/rock tracks.

Beadlocks would be your best bet to stop it completely.

[Joshyboy26]

Well i guess a set of Walker Evans it is haha thanks bud

[zooky08]

Joshyboy26 wrote:

Well i guess a set of Walker Evans it is haha thanks bud

As long as it's not a road driven car