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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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Do decent extractors on a 1.0L improve performance?
I've got a hole in my exhaust and its starting to backfire when under engine/compression breaking...
Has anyone fitted a set of extracts to their 1.0L and noticed a performance gain or found it worthwhile? If so, what brand (or ebay seller) did you use?
Are exhausts pretty generic in that I can goto any exhaust place and ask them to chuck another on for me?
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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the gain is marginal when compared with putting a full 2" exhaust system on your car. if u put a set of extractors on after fitting a 2" system then u wont notice any difference other than the sound
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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well sound i want to keep to a minimum... it wont be for sounds, only performance.
alrighty so for the new exhaust a 2" system is worth looking into. cheers rocky.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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MrRocky wrote: the gain is marginal when compared with putting a full 2" exhaust system on your car. if u put a set of extractors on after fitting a 2" system then u wont notice any difference other than the sound
2" is a little big for a 1 litre isn't it?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:43 pm |
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I'd suggest 1 & 3/4" maximum. I barely noticed much gain when I added mine to my 1.3. Might be easier to find extractors than a manifold tho
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:48 pm |
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Thanks Damo/Scrawn
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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2" was has been fine for me on all my 1ltrs, your not going to loose pwr
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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IMO 2" is too big for 1L. Go for 1.75" and a good multi chambered muffler.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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and what happens if u go to 2"
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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MrRocky wrote: and what happens if u go to 2"
Mine droned like a mofo.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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I have a set of 1 litre extractors here - $50
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: a good multi chambered muffler
Like a Flowmaster?
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Even though some say there is marginal improvement, usually 2 to 5%, you can notice the difference at higher RPM's... i have had a sports system fitted to every zook i have owned, its a good mod, and i felt a difference on every Zook !
Extractors work well with a sports system...
The idea for a sports system, is to have as little restriction as possible, but to do this, it usually comes with noise... and having no noise, means adding restriction, which defeats the purpose... getting a hi-flo cat removes ALOT of restriction, i would aim for a medium noise muffler, that way you get a bit less restiction with a bit of noise... 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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The problem is that 2-5% is within the margin of error of a dyno and undetectable from the driver's seat. It is generally accepted that changes in HP of less than 10% can't reliably be felt from the driver's seat....
However, a loud car always feels faster than a quiet car.
I'm sure extractors help, but in all honesty, I don't think I'd be spending money on an F10. Extractors and a well built exhaust is probably going to cost 1/2 the conversion price to a G13.
Steve.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Damo wrote: Fatzook wrote: a good multi chambered muffler Like a Flowmaster?
Dunno. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Gwagensteve wrote: The problem is that 2-5% is within the margin of error of a dyno and undetectable from the driver's seat. It is generally accepted that changes in HP of less than 10% can't reliably be felt from the driver's seat....
However, a loud car always feels faster than a quiet car.
I'm sure extractors help, but in all honesty, I don't think I'd be spending money on an F10. Extractors and a well built exhaust is probably going to cost 1/2 the conversion price to a G13.
Steve.
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cooperrat
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:22 am Posts: 34 Location: sydney
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Hi all, just put extractors and a 1 3/4 exhaust on my 96 coily.has 190k on the clock. revs a lot easier and has notocable power upgrade ,,not a lot ,but enough to make me smile.Getting between 8.5-9 litres per 100k,s .Kept the existing cat converter.. worth doing I think
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