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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:27 am 
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just wondering what size tube people have used for there cages?
pics and links to see peoples results would be great thanks alot

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:39 am 
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Did you even bother to search? Hit the 'search' button, enter 'roll cage' into the search field then narrow it down by searching only 'Suzuki Talk'. Have a read through all those threads then come back and ask more if you need to

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:54 am 
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For what????

Different comp's ask different thing's....

Speed????


Slow??????


Ice-Cream???

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:54 am 
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depends on the bender you have

but the cams manual is a good start for what to use

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:17 am 
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For what????

Different comp's ask different thing's....

Speed????


Slow??????


Ice-Cream???


I like chocolate cake !!!!

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:29 am 
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Mud cake ftw.

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:33 am 
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Okay mud cake with ice cream!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:46 am 
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just wondering what size tube people have used for there cages?
pics and links to see peoples results would be great thanks alot


Google it mate, also search for it

http://www.ccda4wd.com.au/

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:00 am 
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ICE CREAM :D


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:21 am 
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had a look and couldnt fine any sizes im thinking 40mm tube with 4mm wall should do it i recon

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:28 am 
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32nb 3.2mm wall is good

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:37 am 
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1.75" CDS, wall is about .100" or 2.54mm is what I've used in the past.

32NB is fine, but it's pipe not tube. Fine for a recreational cage but might not be permitted for competition, which is why steak_knife was asking what you wanted the cage for.

I have no idea what 40mm tube with a 4mm wall is - it's not a common size.

4mm is massive overkill for a sierra anyway. A well designed cage should never need tube that heavy.

Bear in mind though that the tube you use needs to suit the die you are using to bend it, so I'd start at the dies you have access to and work back from there.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:50 am 
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Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....

THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:10 am 
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Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....

THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?

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This is the best pic I've got of my old one, we ended up cutting the dash because of the size of the pipe, the cage sits about 10mm off the side which leaves enough room to fit some roll tube foam down there. There was plenty of room around the accelerator for me and I never tripped over the upright getting in or out, I did crack my head on the bar joining the a pillar to the b pillar, only the once though wasnt stupid enough to do it again.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:22 am 
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had a look and couldnt fine any sizes im thinking 40mm tube with 4mm wall should do it i recon


Look harder, this shit isnt going to jsut be presented to you on a plate

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/pdf/10_gen ... 2012-1.pdf

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:13 am 
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suzukikid wrote:
Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....

THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?

Cheers in advance

This is the best pic I've got of my old one, we ended up cutting the dash because of the size of the pipe, the cage sits about 10mm off the side which leaves enough room to fit some roll tube foam down there. There was plenty of room around the accelerator for me and I never tripped over the upright getting in or out, I did crack my head on the bar joining the a pillar to the b pillar, only the once though wasnt stupid enough to do it again.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:11 am 
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suzukikid, you'll notice something about Red89's car in that shot - it has full harnesses.

Whilst the security of a full cage is awesome, there's a reason it's almost impossible to make one legal - they restrict interior room, and that's the irony of a cage - you are likely to hit your head on it in a roll unless you are wearing properly tightened harnesses, so, in fact, a helmet might also be required to retain the "safety" of not having a cage at all.

I don't know what type of driving you are planning on doing, but I would be considering a tightly integrated exo rather than an internal cage.

Part of the problem with an internal cage is that in a slow flop/roll you'll still wreck the car just as badly as if you had no cage at all. You might feel safer assuming you were harnessed and didn't hit the cage on the way over, but you might still have a wreck to tow home.

If course, if you are planning comps, then you'll have to comply with whatever is set out in the rules.

Personally, I wouldn't run an internal cage in a Sierra for recreational Victorian driving. I would consider a hybrid exo/internal cage using your existing 4 point rear 1/2.

I've lost count of how many flops I've seen over the years, and I've never seen a cage make any difference, recreationally. Of course I've seen plenty of rolls in comps where the safety equipment is vital.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:16 am 
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Hey Steve Just questioning the Legalities of an Exo Cage. it seems to be a relatively close guarded secret as to whether one is legal or not.

Could you shed some Light?

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:30 am 
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Legal. (In Victoria) so long as nothing extends more than 80mm away from the car, which is easy.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:37 am 
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Fair enough... i wonder what its like on the greener side of the border...

<_<" Probably illegal like all fun things in NSW

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:37 am 
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ok im wonting to use it for w/e abit of fun but as i do more mods id like to go in some comps so may as well do it the first time
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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:43 am 
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luke1122 wrote:
had a look and couldnt fine any sizes im thinking 40mm tube with 4mm wall should do it i recon


http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c792a ... icles2.pdf

Since you're in QLD, and I'm guessing you still want it to be road legal (I'm assuming) hit up that link. It's helped me out before.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:44 am 
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Luke, I suspect you will find that what's required for a comp will be illegal on the road.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:22 am 
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i have pmed ya gwagon....wont hijack old mates thread!

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:44 am 
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mine isnt road leagal anymore anyway and im getting my trailer tomorrow i just wont safe
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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:15 pm 
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My mates cage in his Sierra was good
It ran over the targa bar which gave heaps more Head room. It had little wings that came out just over the doors so when u lent on say a tree it would take the weight
It must have been strong as it had been on it's lid at least 3 times rec driving as well as the night drive at tuff truck
But like steve said he ran harnesses when of road

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:15 pm 
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here is my cage.. i cbf mesuring it so :)


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