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caltamz
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 85 Location: Kallangur
Vehicle: 94' part 'OCD' sierra
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Hey guys, just wondering if there was a way of telling the difference between a standard OEM replacement clutch and the heavy duty just by looking at it? Bought what I thought was a HD clutch but it has a silver cover and on the Exedy site it's says silver is the OEM standard version. Is this right? I'm no mechanic as you can tell but any help would be great.
Cheers.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:05 am |
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bright pinkish for the h/d
Should say "sport's tuff" on the box, & box should be bright colored to..
Pic of side on of the pressure plate??
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caltamz
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 85 Location: Kallangur
Vehicle: 94' part 'OCD' sierra
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 am |
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Brisbane brake depot is where i bought it off Ebay. They got back to me saying that the warehouse has been doing this a fair bit to them lately so will see.

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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 am |
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Stick with the standard one but go get ya money back if there is a difference in price
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:11 am |
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that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:44 am |
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steak_knife wrote: that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box
Not all the time.. I have fitted a few and it seems that they only paint the more common one .. Falcon, commodore, skylines etc etc.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:47 am |
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89_tintop wrote: steak_knife wrote: that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box Not all the time.. I have fitted a few and it seems that they only paint the more common one .. Falcon, commodore, skylines etc etc.
 I lernded something today... 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:49 am |
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I've seen the Sierra ones pink 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Scrawn wrote: I've seen the Sierra ones pink
me to....
Sully's got pink bit's.... 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:54 am |
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alex

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Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2151 Location: Brissy
Vehicle: Nissan
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:05 am |
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My HD was unpainted.
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:08 am |
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Yep same, have a pink sports tuff in my sierra and my GTi, but a bloke from work put one in his pajero and was just metal colour. Maybe exedy are beginning to be tight-arses with production costs?
Cheers Superduki.
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caltamz
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 85 Location: Kallangur
Vehicle: 94' part 'OCD' sierra
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:58 pm |
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Thanks for all your help guys. The seller agrees that its not what it should be and are going to replace it. It puts me behind as to where i wanted to be but all good as long as its sorted. Cheers again.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:11 pm |
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See how it has the weirdo big fingers? H/D have them, the normal have thinner ones
its very hit and miss as to who gets a pink one, I would fit it
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:27 pm |
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royce wrote: See how it has the weirdo big fingers? H/D have them, the normal have thinner ones
its very hit and miss as to who gets a pink one, I would fit it
Yer he does to!!!!

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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:34 pm |
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I thought HD clutches were the devil?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Damo wrote: I thought HD clutches were the devil?
Depends who make's em...
but i do get sick of typing the same thing, he already has it, so..... 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:44 pm |
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Oh!!! OP, carry spare clutch cable's with you!!!!!!
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HarryHoudini
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 am Posts: 359 Location: Northern NSW Australia.
Vehicle: Coily.
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:46 pm |
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..are Exedy the best clutch to install,my Coily is used regulary on the beach.TIA.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:48 pm |
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HarryHoudini wrote: ..are Exedy the best clutch to install,my Coily is used regulary on the beach.TIA.
Std yes............. H/d........ Fruck no!!!!!
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:35 am |
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I reckon exedy HD in a sierra are trouble free but they dont need em if your gearing is good
the extra travel needed to make them work makes them terrible in a Vitara, that doesnt really have the travel spare
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masterA

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Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 am Posts: 976 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:28 pm |
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Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
Vehicle: Zookless
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masterA wrote: Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard
Yeah, but have they actually broken cables themselves?
Or are they just perpetuating another internet myth because they read it somewhere?
If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know:
1) Where the cable snapped
2) How old was the cable
3) Was it installed correctly and by whom
4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc..
For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:14 am |
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CairnsZook wrote: If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know: 1) Where the cable snapped 2) How old was the cable 3) Was it installed correctly and by whom 4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc.. For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch
A std frucked one????
If the pressure plate is collapsing it would feel better.... 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:33 am |
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CairnsZook wrote: masterA wrote: Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard Yeah, but have they actually broken cables themselves? Or are they just perpetuating another internet myth because they read it somewhere? If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know: 1) Where the cable snapped 2) How old was the cable 3) Was it installed correctly and by whom 4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc.. For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch 
first (original to the car) in traffic going to work
second (Suzisport supplied) month later in light traffic
third (new genuine suzuki) month later, cant rememeber when
I then changed to a sierra cable, new none genuine
was still bad, a few weeks later I pulled the HD clutch out and fitted a standard excedy, that sierra cable snapped 2.5 years later
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
Vehicle: Zookless
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:51 am |
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Stekky, there was nothing wrong with the old one.
I just decided to replace it with a HD while I was doing the engine swap
I also replaced the clutch cable with a new one from Suzistore.
The old cable was fine, but old. The new one looks nice and new, but doesn't appear to be as well made.
We'll see how long it lasts then.
Royce, how and where did you cables snap? Did the cable itself part?
Or did the fittings on the end fail?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:55 am |
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all the ones that went quickly the outer cable failed where it bends around the bottom hose
the one that lasted snapped the inner at the firewall fitting, this was more from using a sierra cable in a late Vitara, the firewall angle is wrong for it
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:56 am |
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Mine snapped 1 cable and stretched another to the piont that it could not be adjusted any more. I can't remember where it broke, but it was a cable failure, not an end failure.
HD clutch came out, STD clutch went back in.
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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Thanks Royce. Now that I have some actual reasons for them snapping, I know what to look out for
Fatzook, any idea why there was so much pressure on your cable?
Did you have it routed through the engine bay as per factory? Any tight turns that may affect the movement of the cable inside the sheath?
Any crap or corrosion on the GB input shaft affecting the movement of the clutch release bearing?
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