[Mike]

i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward?

Cheers
Mike

[steve]

carefull with the quality of welding or royce and joe will cane your arse

[Mike]

don't worry it won't be me welding it although i do think my gassless mig skills are upto the task

[steve]

we want to see sample welding photos

[Mike]

i will post welding pics if someone gives me the infomation i need

[zookernator]

Mike wrote:

i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward?

Cheers
Mike

Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!!

[Mike]

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward?

Cheers
Mike

Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!!

what i have to do it first so you can learn from my mistakes?

[Damo]

steve wrote:

carefull with the quality of welding or royce and joe will cane your arse

Next you'll be telling me that Sikaflex is not appropriate for this application!

[zookernator]

Mike wrote:

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward?

Cheers
Mike

Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!!

what i have to do it first so you can learn from my mistakes?

hahahaha.. we can share!!

[royce]

work out how long the spring is along the leaf, work out how long you want your shackle and whats the max angle you want the shackle to be under (I think about 60degrees they can invert)
then some maths to work it out will tell you how far apart the mounts need to be, simple

or just figure how much longer than stock they are and move it that much, doubt youll lose any flex

[Mike]

wouldn't i loose down travel with shorter shackles and the mounts moved forward?

[Zook_Fan]

possible but the spring might have more flex in it if alowed to drop more freely and for how it was designed with smaller shackles. you will also loose a bit of hieght but that is obvious

[royce]

unless you can make the shackle point at the diff on full droop then I very much doubt it

[Mike]

so how much further forward should the front mounts be then?

[royce]

royce wrote:

work out how long the spring is along the leaf, work out how long you want your shackle and whats the max angle you want the shackle to be under (I think about 60degrees they can invert)
then some maths to work it out will tell you how far apart the mounts need to be, simple

or just figure how much longer than stock they are and move it that much, doubt youll lose any flex

[Mike]

haha what is the maths involved?
what i meant to ask was what setups have people used before that worked well?

[royce]

I think 3" is the common amount

[Damo]

Since you're using a rear spring, wouldnt you just measure how far apart the spring and shackle hangers are in the rear and make the front the same?

[Mike]

Damo wrote:

Since you're using a rear spring, wouldnt you just measure how far apart the spring and shackle hangers are in the rear and make the front the same?

but wouldn't that make the front flex like the rear does standard?

[Zook_Fan]

yeah but with more weight over it

[Mike]

how is that benefictial? are there any benefits of having a chassis extention over having longer shackles?

[Damo]

Damo wrote:

but wouldn't that make the front flex like the rear does standard?

The distance that these are apart isn't really what is affecting wheel travel. It's the spring rate and the fact you've got a longer main leaf.

Mike wrote:

how is that benefictial? are there any benefits of having a chassis extention over having longer shackles?

Usually you will get droop with longer shackles. The benefit of going with a chassis extension is that you can keep the stock shackles. Some may not see it as a benefit, YMMV.

[Mike]

so really chassis extentions only benefit ride quailty and on road performance?

[royce]

shorter shackles are a shit load more stable, better approach angle too

[Zook_Fan]

what about getting one of these: http://www.rocky-road.com/ruf.html
it wouldnt cost much to make and once you've made one you can put up the dimensions sto show us all how to do it

[Mike]

that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way

[zookernator]

Mike wrote:

that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way

hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike

[Mike]

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way

hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike

haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore

[zookernator]

Mike wrote:

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way

hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike

haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore

hahaha

[Mike]

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

zookernator wrote:

Mike wrote:

that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way

hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike

haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore

hahaha

haha to make you feel special i'll tell you later what i find out today