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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:41 am |
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55W/12v=4.58a. Since 20 Amps is over 4 times 4.58, it's ample.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:25 am |
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Bugsta wrote: 55W/12v=4.58a. Since 20 Amps is over 4 times 4.58, it's ample. i would use two 20amp relays as using something at 95% max capacity would limit its reliability. or just get a good relay to start with, i use 70amp jobbies and real cable
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:43 am |
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i have a spare 80A relay and 4mm cable will it be ok?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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fully sick coily wrote: i have a spare 80A relay and 4mm cable will it be ok? is it 4mm2 cable or just that crap on a roll from stupid cheap. good 4mm2 cable would be around 30amp but the 4mm stuff from shit shops would be lucky to be 10 amp. -
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:17 pm |
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its the stuff from super cheap where would you recomend buying cable from
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:42 pm |
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Springers (I think that's what they are called) @ lawnton do a lot of 12v stuff. They are reasonably priced and great to deal with
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:48 pm |
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Ashdown Ingram are great auto electrical suppliers also
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:08 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: 55W/12v=4.58a. Since 20 Amps is over 4 times 4.58, it's ample. I was a bit drunk when I read and responded so I didn't take into account quantity required. 3 x 55W = 165W 165W/12v=13.75A. Still well within spec of a 20A relay. I'd check out Jaycar or Altronics if you have one nearby. They both have online websites as well.I was a bit drunk when I read and responded Are we talking 4mm conductor or 4mm OD of cable? 4mm copper would be overkill. Shep is right in that 4mm OD could vary in the actual amount of copper considerably. More insulation = less copper = less current capacity.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:16 pm |
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Single 4mm2 at the usual 1.5m length for a bar mounted spotlight is .2v drop, I think that could be done better
Rather using your supercheap 4mm cable (Usually this is 1.84mm2) but with a single run per light, so 3 runs, will give you 0.017v drop, much much better
Though I dont know if HID lights are as sensitive to voltage drop as halogen and really youll get more drop in the entire system from bad joints and poor crimps
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:09 pm |
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thanks ill drop into springers after work one day as i work in at brendale
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:26 pm |
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Brendale... Go to AME Products. They carry an extensive range of automotive electrical. Not on show, all by catalog. Just tell em what you are doing and what youy think you want.
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 am |
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where is AME products i am just off southpine road near IPLEX
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Let your fingers do the walking on where AME are.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Bruce wrote: Let your fingers do the walking on where AME are. And I get in trouble for suggesting Google 
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Bruce

az supporter
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Bruce wrote: Would you like me to call them now for you fully sick and then go pick up.  I need some things picked up too Bruce, I'll pm you the list.....
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Scrawn wrote: Bruce wrote: Would you like me to call them now for you fully sick and then go pick up.  I need some things picked up too Bruce, I'll pm you the list..... Ha ha ive sent Bruce there before 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Yes, yes you have Royce. They have moved from the last time you sent me there. They must be at least an extra 3 mins drive now 
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:45 pm |
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thanks
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:59 pm |
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How did you get on fsc? Did they have what you wanted?
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:49 pm |
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just use some 2.5 or 4.5mm tps 
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
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 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:08 pm |
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larry wrote: just use some 2.5 or 4.5mm tps  This will work but is not ideal..... this type of cable doesn't handle vibration too well and can fatigue and break when used in cars.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
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 Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:02 pm |
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HID ballasts are not voltage sensitive. the good quality ones will run between 9-32v
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whincup

az supporter
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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Scrawn wrote: Ashdown Ingram are great auto electrical suppliers also AFAIK, they only sell bulk... I just went to them and purchased a 30m roll of 6mm wire. i think thats good for 50Amps?? costs $60... i used it for headlight relay upgrade and spotties (55W HIDs) and works excellent. cant remember figures but it was bugger all voltage drop.
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