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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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hi all i was just wondering what is the difference in the g13a engine and the g13b? and how to tell the difference between them?
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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G13B is 1298cc, G13A is 1324cc (longer stroke, taller block) and the block will be marked.
The G13A will be 8v SOHC, the G13B can be 8 or 16V, SOHC or DOHC.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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There's really 4 kinds of g13...
G13a - SOHC 8v (NT sierra, swift, barina) 1324cc G13b - DOHC 16v (swift gti) G13ba - SOHC 8v (swift, barina, WT sierra) 1298cc G13bb - SOHC 16v (jimny, swift)
Theyre all pretty different!
You can tell what is what by the engine number - it will start with the engine type, ie: G13A.... or G13BA....
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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how to tell the difference, looking at the left (passenger) side of the block, just in front of where the transmission attaches, there will be either G13A or G13B stamped on it... and you will be able to tell the difference between the SOHC and DOHC, if not, google images SOHC and DOHC, you'll pick it up easy after that.
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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arighty then cheers for the info, another stupid question, but im still learning about this shorta shit haha, so i have a g13ba wt sierra if i was wonting to put a g13a or a g13b engine into how much and what would i have to change to make them fit? cheers.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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g13a - there's no benefit, its the same motor really.
g13b - search "GTI engine" as that's what theyre commonly referred to.
IMO - if you're keen on more power, just plonk a 1.6 (g16) in there - you have the choice of carby or efi - go EFI if you can.
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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Alrighty then to put a g16 In it what would I have to change and how difficult would it be to do your self?.
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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I could do it my self, Alien could do it himself, but Im not sure you can just yet. If your just learning, its a BIG job mostly because of wiring and fuel, unless you put in a carby G16 (dont).
Start on small projects before an engine change and work your way up to it,. ;D
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 am |
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The g13 that I have in my Sierra is stuffed and on its way out.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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neofitou wrote: Alien could never do it himself, cos he's too lazy to learn how, and would rather just pay someone who knows what theyre doing to do it fixed =)
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Neofitou say don't fit a carbie 1600, I would be carefull who you take advice from.
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:29 pm |
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okay then, how much and what would i have to change to put a carbie 1600 in my wt sierra?
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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fordem wrote: G13B is 1298cc, G13A is 1324cc (longer stroke, taller block) and the block will be marked.
The G13A will be 8v SOHC, the G13B can be 8 or 16V, SOHC or DOHC. I'm pretty shure that the block is not actually taller, the crank is molded different it is not hollow the 1298(g13b&g13ba) has a different moulding of the crank it is hollow and is better balanced,the cams are also different ,and the g13b was used as a gti block but also as a 8v combination
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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haurp00ned wrote: okay then, how much and what would i have to change to put a carbie 1600 in my wt sierra? BenT kit and a plug on the vit carby changed viewtopic.php?f=15&t=15009
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haurp00ned
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:12 pm Posts: 161 Location: coolum beach
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:04 pm |
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so what all i would need is a bent kit? and aso wouldnt i need to change al the wiring and what not?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:28 pm |
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Most stuff plugs in exept for the plug to the carby. I did the conversion in one day and was very happy With the result.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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AND the sump has to be changed to a sierra one and the oil pickup needds to be cut and welded.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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zukmeista wrote: AND the sump has to be changed to a sierra one and the oil pickup needds to be cut and welded. I didn't change the sump on mine and it didn't come close to the diff  however my front diff is around 60mm forward from stock. I won't be changing the sump on the G16b that I am putting into my lwb either
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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