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thericho
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:55 am Posts: 33 Location: Brisbane
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A motorbike cop pulled alongside me today and said my exhaust was illegal because it points out the side.
I've got a 91 WT Sierra with a vit 1.6. I had a 2" exhaust put on years ago that was straight out the back but fumes were bad so I had it changed to point out the side.
The thing is, I'm pretty sure it pointed out the side originally.
Anyone know what's standard and what's legal.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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The rule used to be that you could have an exhaust exit the side of a vehicle 40mm past the rearward most opening window.... which on a soft top sierra, is the tailgate. It must exit on the passengers side and face down at a particular angle ( which I cannot recall ).
Given that the OEM sierra exhaust points to the side, I would have told him to go hit google images up before he shoots his mouth off next time.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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The way I read this is that your exhaust points out side before tailgate which is not legal. If that is the case be happy that he was good enough to warn you and not give you a defect notice.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Cop must be pretty switched on and know his ADR's
10.1.2 the exhaust outlet, if to the side of the vehicle, must discharge to the right hand side of the vehicle and downwards at an angle to the horizontal of not less than 15 degrees and not more than 45 degrees; and
This rule I believe is to protect pedestrians on the side-walk from fumes/backfires etc. Beats me how vehicles can be approved or imported with exhaust discharging from the left hand-side when they obviously violate the ADR above.....
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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JrZook wrote: Cop must be pretty switched on and know his ADR's
10.1.2 the exhaust outlet, if to the side of the vehicle, must discharge to the right hand side of the vehicle and downwards at an angle to the horizontal of not less than 15 degrees and not more than 45 degrees; and
This rule I believe is to protect pedestrians on the side-walk from fumes/backfires etc. Beats me how vehicles can be approved or imported with exhaust discharging from the left hand-side when they obviously violate the ADR above..... Have a look at your compliance plate. Does say it meets ADR10?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Why don't we sort out where the guy's exhaust actually exits before busting out ADRs and the usual AZ speculative BS?
thericho, where does your exhaust exit? From your description it sounds like it's the same location as stock, in which case the copper is wrong.
Did he defect you for it?
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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You are right Damo, it needs to be clarified, I read it as out the side like in front of the back wheel but as you say out the side could actually be out the back then pointing sideways like a stock exhaust.
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thericho
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:55 am Posts: 33 Location: Brisbane
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Sorry guys - to clarify it sticks out the back, a touch further than the tailgate, exiting left, passenger side, with a slight downward inclination at the end. Copper just gave me warning, I said it exited left when it was stock but didn't push it because there were other things he could have called me on. Just wondering because I prefer it like that and don't want to change unless necessary.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
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If it was made from factory like that, bugger all the bronze can do.
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thericho
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:55 am Posts: 33 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:40 pm |
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Pretty sure it's the same as stock but fatter
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Stocker  Mine used to come straight out the back, but faced 45' down. Helped a lot with fumes. But was also efi
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foolsp33d
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thericho
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:55 am Posts: 33 Location: Brisbane
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  Fair call! These are old pics but the exhaust is the same
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Thats close enough to where the OEM pipe exits for it to be a non-issue.
The cop may be right when applying the rules to any old car, but in this instance, he was/is wrong, as that is the OEM position.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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I think the traffic just wanted to say something,
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:48 pm |
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Your exhaust looks fine i reckon, if you want to be real picky the stock one in pic does end up exhausting slightly backwards but yours is pretty close to standard exhaust direction. Print that standard pic and keep in your car in case he pulls you over again.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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mazdaspater
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:40 am Posts: 95 Location: Canberra
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Does it have a number plate light? Is it just blurred out with the plate? He coulda done you on that if not. Red reflectors on the back?
I suspect you are right with the there being other things he could have spotted in a 30 second walkaround.
He was just pissing on posts. Wanker.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Fatzook can u check ur pms 
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thericho
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:55 am Posts: 33 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:05 pm |
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Thanks guys - sounds like he's just throwing his weight around. I'll get a pic to keep in the car in case he's local and has another go.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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KEENSY85 wrote: Fatzook can u check ur pms  Why? Is there supposed to be a PM there that I need to read? 
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: Fatzook can u check ur pms  Why? Is there supposed to be a PM there that I need to read?  Sorry mate just trying to catch up with u about getting my perches welded on, thought u might not have checked ur Pms 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Got no PM's from you here. Pm me with your questions.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: Got no PM's from you here. Pm me with your questions. Pm sent
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coily96

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Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 11:50 am Posts: 823 Location: Beenleigh
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I had my exhaust moved to point out the LH side with a slight pitch down because the fumes were putting us asleep, the guy who welded the new tail pipe section on said its always been illegal to point any exhaust to the nature strip/foot path. I can see this being a good argument at main roads with OEM specs.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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So how do all these lads get away with the truck stack style tailpipes you see driving around on luxes and patrols e.t.c.?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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it's luck of the draw & i'm guessing the OP getting away without a defect was simply due to passing the simple attitude test.
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