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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Hi everyone i have a 94 vitara 1.6 carby and i was just wondering if theres any cheap easy engine mods so i can get some more power. Or wat is easy swap engine thatll give me more power any recomendations?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:48 am |
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Cam, Weber and extractors, or swap in a G16B.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Wat type of cam and webber
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Cam depends on your driving style and requirements: CAMSA couple of choices on the WEBER: 32/36, while others have run a 36/36.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Wats the difference in the webbers
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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WEBER, if you spell it right, you could find what you need to know on a internet search!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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i believe this guy is a half a troll, he even copied another person's user name.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Yea u neva guessed were mates and talk bout my name qat kind of name is atari
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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at least i was original enough to come up with something different.
also learn to type... this isn't failbook.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:44 am |
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Who honestly cares about spelling ur not at a english exam.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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well for starters, the spelling of webber/weber would be one. searching for webber brings up these  searching for weber brings up these  all i'm trying to say is put a bit of effort into your posts & people are more likely going to put some effort into giving you a decent reply, it's a 2 way street. 
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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atari4x4 wrote: searching for webber brings up these  I have one of these webers. There great. You have to get the air/fuel ratio right otherwise they blow a bit of smoke and run hot.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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do you have problems with them flooding going up or down hill, mine only works well on flat ground. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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siktara94 wrote: Who honestly cares about spelling ur not at a english exam. When you ask a question on here I'm guessing you were looking for an answer that's helpful and is easy to understand. If so, it's best to write a question that's helpful and easy to understand. Good spelling and grammar, and being polite, gets better results from the internet. Steve.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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It was a simple question wats not to get? and i wasnt the one who started juat after a quick easy answer, and sorry i pushed the wrong button sheesh its the internet so who cares ?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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there is no such thing as a quick & easy answer... it's a bit like a quick question viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36599southcotts out at wingfield can regrind cams another option is tighe cams http://www.tighecams.com.au/
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
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I was going to offer something intelligent, but when I have to read your posts 3 times to figure them out as every 2nd word is misspelled or abbreviated I gave up. Put a bit of effort in and people may take you seriously. We don't like posts that look like a 14yr olds sms. You aren't charged for the length of your post here!
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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U try typing on stupid phones these days
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Having owned both motors, the G16A and the G16B. I think its better to upgrade to a G16B, than stuff around with the other stuff trying to improve the G16A. The difference between the two is night and day IMO, and you'll have better economy with the G16B. The G16B i had with 300,000kms was far better than the G16A with half the km's on it.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I would advise against doing a cam, extractors and weber carby. As per the g13a/ba mods the main reason is the hp/$ increase will be atrocious.
A cam is quite expensive, considering all it does it tweak the power curve, not create more power. Extractors may lose you power Weber carby may use more fuel, as it may breathe better, and you have to get the jetting just right. And you will have flooding issues.
Convert it to g16b, and enjoy much more power, and better fuel economy. $/hp is probably one of the best mods. You could maybe try a j18 or j20 , or even a h20 out of a gv if you want something different.
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Thanks chop and jdk81 do you no how much killowats the G1616a puts out to the G16b? And wats a good price to pay for a G16b?
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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I think 55kw -70kw
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Chop wrote: Having owned both motors, the G16A and the G16B. I think its better to upgrade to a G16B, than stuff around with the other stuff trying to improve the G16A. The difference between the two is night and day IMO, and you'll have better economy with the G16B. The G16B i had with 300,000kms was far better than the G16A with half the km's on it. Ya g16a wasnt that bad was it? 
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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Thankyou:) the only differnece between the two engines is one has DOHC right or is there more to it then that wat im trying to say is can i put a head of a G16b onto my G16a and will i notice the difference?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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G16b is a 16 valve motor & you can bolt the head but you need to swap to G16b pistons, you're better off with a whole G16b donor vehicle cause you going to need the EFI & all the associated bits including a EFI tank or surge tank set up.
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
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Chop wrote: Having owned both motors, the G16A and the G16B. I think its better to upgrade to a G16B, than stuff around with the other stuff trying to improve the G16A. The difference between the two is night and day IMO, and you'll have better economy with the G16B. The G16B i had with 300,000kms was far better than the G16A with half the km's on it. And that particular G16B still pulls like a train with 340,000kms on it 
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siktara94
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:39 am Posts: 20 Location: adelaide
Vehicle: 94suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:49 pm |
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Ok thankyou guys anyone no of a G16b donor in sa
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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Polar_Bear wrote: Chop wrote: Having owned both motors, the G16A and the G16B. I think its better to upgrade to a G16B, than stuff around with the other stuff trying to improve the G16A. The difference between the two is night and day IMO, and you'll have better economy with the G16B. The G16B i had with 300,000kms was far better than the G16A with half the km's on it. Ya g16a wasnt that bad was it?  Your old one was a step above and beyond the 1.3 it replaced, but the G16B's are better again. EFI helps alot, they're just a better package as a whole.
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atari4x4

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siktara94 wrote: Ok thankyou guys anyone no of a G16b donor in sa check gumtree & the auctions, personally it would be easier/better to sell up & buy an EFI one, the swap what mods you've done to the new one.
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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britvit wrote: Chop wrote: Having owned both motors, the G16A and the G16B. I think its better to upgrade to a G16B, than stuff around with the other stuff trying to improve the G16A. The difference between the two is night and day IMO, and you'll have better economy with the G16B. The G16B i had with 300,000kms was far better than the G16A with half the km's on it. And that particular G16B still pulls like a train with 340,000kms on it  It loves it that thing! 
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