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Post Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:38 pm 
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LOL :) how about an unfinished project for sale in 14 months :P *stirs up the hornet's nest* :P


Good luck with that. :mrgreen:

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lol i know where you are coming from steve :) but fortunatly i have an entire engineering workshop at my disposal.... bridgeport mills... lathes accurate to 1000th of an inch... drill press's... mig welders and tig welders... my parents business :)

And my car is a daily driver, but i have two entire sierra's at the moment rolling chassis wise.... i also already have a drop pitman arm... so, im going to do the spring perch's with this new jig ive bought, sort out the steering and shocks... and brake lines... and drop it all in in a weekend or two :)

Why do you think im driving around with 2inch lift in the front and not in the back yet? :P lol i fabbed those sway bar extensions up in about an hour and a half :)

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:11 pm 
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lol i know where you are coming from steve :) but fortunatly i have an entire engineering workshop at my disposal.... bridgeport mills... lathes accurate to 1000th of an inch... drill press's... mig welders and tig welders... my parents business :)



Not to be rude but you can have all the fancy equipment in the world at your disposal which doesn't mean squat if the build/modifications are executed poorly without much forethought.
Those sway-bar extensions may work ok but they stand out like dog balls! A solid block of alloy in between or an extension and strengthening of the shaft holding the bush end may have been a lot easier to conceal as well as fab up for example.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:18 pm 
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lol i know where you are coming from steve :) but fortunatly i have an entire engineering workshop at my disposal.... bridgeport mills... lathes accurate to 1000th of an inch... drill press's... mig welders and tig welders... my parents business :)



Not to be rude but you can have all the fancy equipment in the world at your disposal which doesn't mean squat if the build/modifications are executed poorly without much forethought.
Those sway-bar extensions may work ok but they stand out like dog balls! A solid block of alloy in between or an extension and strengthening of the shaft holding the bush end may have been a lot easier to conceal as well as fab up for example.


a lick of black paint and they wont be so noticable.... also they arent structual, as someone pointed out here before most people do away with them all together... they are designed that way so with two nuts and two bolts the whole swaybar and mounts can come away in a jiffy :) when i go off road and put the bf goodrich AT's i have on :)

But i do understand what you are saying JrZook, which is why i OVER engineered those sway bar brackets.... i could have tack welded a thin bit of plate to a bit of rectangular tube etc etc etc... but instead i went to the extent of drilling and threading those two round bits of zinc plated bar you see... and then using high tensile bolts out of each side... 8x25mm bolts... and that bit of plate ive adde on is 8mm thick mild steel... WAY OVER KILL! :) it was a 1.5 hour job as i previously mentioned... and i used what i had available to me without purchasing anything... the zinc plated round bar is actually a pin from an otto bin.... the flat plate was laying around the factory... the bolts are new :)

As for the diff perch's... i wont be welding them myself :) i have someone to do that for me....

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:37 pm 
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personally i wouldn't bother with a SPOA conversion anyway... it's going to be tippy & unstable compared to a mildly lifted SPUA with RUF.

that is you want to go offroading & not build a mall crawler with all terrains.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:08 am 
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LOL :) how about an unfinished project for sale in 14 months :P *stirs up the hornet's nest* :P


Good luck with that. :mrgreen:

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lol i know where you are coming from steve :) but fortunatly i have an entire engineering workshop at my disposal.... bridgeport mills... lathes accurate to 1000th of an inch... drill press's... mig welders and tig welders... my parents business

Im currently surrounded by numerous CNC and manual machining equipment. Doesnt mean any less thought. Has to go into my car.
Some of the best performing cars offroad are built on a dirt floor with a 5" grinder and a mig.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:27 am 
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I've only got a 4" :(

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:07 am 
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wasnt appsies made with a 5inch, bender and a mig and thats basically it? thats mad.

I feel this is another ill f:#?!ing show you silly cunce how to build a good sierra cos ive got a million dollars worth of lathes n shit thread.
anyone else?

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:13 am 
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Mines not a "classic" - the pics above look like what we in WA had badged as a "surf" (the silver trim).

Mine's got "Limited Edition" stickers on the B pillar... but i've got no idea what was limited edition about it other than the sticker.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:42 am 
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So you have a fully equipped engineering workshop at your disposal and that's what you came up with for sway bar extensions. They may be overkill but they don't appear to be over designed, maybe its just the pic.

So do you plan on going spoa with two inch springs ? And how do you plan to fix the steering ?

Have a look through the build threads, start with Appsies, Mr Greens, Gwagonsteves etc all were built in backyards with a lot less tools then you have.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:45 am 
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So you have a fully equipped engineering workshop at your disposal and that's what you came up with for sway bar extensions. They may be overkill but they don't appear to be over designed, maybe its just the pic.

So do you plan on going spoa with two inch springs ? And how do you plan to fix the steering ?

Have a look through the build threads, start with Appsies, Mr Greens, Gwagonsteves etc all were built in backyards with a lot less tools then you have.


Ive already got a dropped pitman arm... or theres always those Z link's... like what rocky road sell...

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:47 am 
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or theres always those Z link's... like what rocky road sell...


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:48 am 
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what's the reason for wanting to go SPOA in the first place?

LOW is the new lift, unless you're building a poser mobile. :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:49 am 
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Ok so Munster has number 59, i have number 53... im guessing they did a run of 100 cars... i wonder how many others are left :)

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:52 am 
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what's the reason for wanting to go SPOA in the first place?

LOW is the new lift, unless you're building a poser mobile. :wink:


LOL... because i want to run 32's to give more diff clearance... and get more of the body/underside of the car out of the mud...

It will be 2 inch spring, 2 inch body + SPOA :)

That and i bought this the other week :) http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121068673236

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:56 am 
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So you have a fully equipped engineering workshop at your disposal and that's what you came up with for sway bar extensions. They may be overkill but they don't appear to be over designed, maybe its just the pic.

So do you plan on going spoa with two inch springs ? And how do you plan to fix the steering ?

figured a look through the build threads, start with Appsies, Mr Greens, Gwagonsteves etc all were built in backyards with a lot less tools then you have.


Ive already got a dropped pitman arm... or theres always those Z link's... like what rocky road sell...

I figured you probably would, based on the rest of your setup its a good choice.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:57 am 
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Haha 8 inches of lift for 32s is just silly. I have 4 inch total and have 33s and mine is proberbly considered to much lift.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:04 am 
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I think jimbo runs a similar setup to what you are planning + 2" shackles
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:04 am 
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worried about the underside getting dirty is not a valid reason for all that lift on small tyres. i suggest your read some of the builds on here, you need to....




seeing you have all the fancy tools... why not do a virtual lift.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:08 am 
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Haha 8 inches of lift for 32s is just silly. I have 4 inch total and have 33s and mine is proberbly considered to much lift.


would you recommend i just get some of those 6" calmini springs instead? :P and yes im being sarcastic.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:09 am 
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I think jimbo runs a similar setup to what you are planning + 2" shackles
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that looks like the sort of clearance i want! :) but that ones LWB isnt it?

Does he (jimbo) havea build thread anywhere?


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Haha 8 inches of lift for 32s is just silly. I have 4 inch total and have 33s and mine is proberbly considered to much lift.


would you recommend i just get some of those 6" calmini springs instead? :P and yes im being sarcastic.



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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:11 am 
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Once i get my hands on a VW TDI motor, ill go larger than 32's of course :) and do transfer case gearing etc etc

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:15 am 
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Once i get my hands on a VW TDI motor, ill go larger than 32's of course :) and do transfer case gearing etc etc


you'll need to sort out the steering/turbo clearance.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:22 am 
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Once i get my hands on a VW TDI motor, ill go larger than 32's of course :) and do transfer case gearing etc etc


you'll need to sort out the steering/turbo clearance.



Mmmm ill go powersteering... either vitara or patrol steering box... custom hoses up to the vw power steering pump...

and exhaust manifold... and hacking up the wiring loom etc

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:25 am 
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What is with the stupid video posting?

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:28 am 
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what is with the stupid ideas for a build?

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:46 am 
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This thread gave me cancer...

also This is running 32's and no lift, Its also 1ltr but thats fine as it has reduction gears... drives silly lines and is pretty dam capable...
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u need probably 4 inches of lift to clear that, (if you dont hack shit like i did) adding SOA onto that will just end up on your roof etc

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This thread gave me cancer...



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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:12 pm 
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Obvious troll is obvious.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:49 pm 
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Haha 8 inches of lift for 32s is just silly. I have 4 inch total and have 33s and mine is proberbly considered to much lift.


would you recommend i just get some of those 6" calmini springs instead? :P and yes im being sarcastic.



Haha I actually do have calmini springs :thefinger:

On the off chance that you aren't trolling

This is approximately 2.5 inch springs, 1 inch shackles and 1 inch body lift. Fits 33s with the only issue being the rear fuel filler, easly sorted with a hose clamp.

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