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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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I believe the 1lt Transfer Cases are 1:1 Ratio in hi?
are there any others that also have a similar gearing?
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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1l is 1:1.580 in high. One of the Jimny cases is 1:1 or something around that.
What do you want a 1:1 transfer for?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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vitara has 1:1 most of the toyota boxes patrol its a long list
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Practically every transfer case made is 1:1 in high, other than older LT 230 and Suzuki.
What are you trying to achieve?
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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 Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:51 am |
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Just getting all my info before i start something i cant finish.
I want to use my sierra as my camping and weekend warrior.
but i want to achieve a lower reduction for rock crawling with out sacrificing my beach driving as im happy how it is on the beach.
i looked into doing a dual tcase setup and also looking at the 4 speed atlas tcase.
i have a spare stock 1.3 tcase at home i was going to mod to fit in front of my current tcase (4.?:1) where the jack shaft is. moving the stock position of the transfer case back abit to accomadate
so im just getting what info i can to decide what i want to do
(i have left over tax return, figure spend it on the zuki)
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:37 am |
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Vit doubler.
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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 Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:14 am |
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well i have a vit gear box/ transfer but its not in the best of shape....
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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you are looking at a lot of fab work to do this, for very little gain.
maybe post up the gearing you have now, + tire size and we can make some realistic suggestions
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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i have 4.?:1 in my transfer case running 32" tyres
high way driving is about 3k rpm sitting on 100kmh (does it easily with the 1.6)
i want to gear down more for rock crawling but i do just as much beach driving and i dont want to sit on 5 in low on the beach for ages just to get to where i need
so just looking for best options
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Gear high range up a bit so you are at, say, 3700rpm on the highway and use high range on the beach.
Steve.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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if you go from 4.1 transfer to 4.9 gears your only going to gain 200 rpm at 100 in 5th but you will go from 56 : 1 to 66: 1 in low
5.1:1 transfer gears will be around 250 rpm in high and down to nearly 70:1 in low
6.5 gears will take to you 3500 rpm at 100 in 5th but will give you 87:1 reduction in low
as you can see the high range doesnt really change all that much
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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i can always try 6.5s and use high on the beach.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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Assuming you have 3K to spend on a Tcase, why don't you go AW4, trimmed down Vit case and a Sierra case behind that to fix up the highrange gearing...
Wouldn't cost Anywhere near as much as an atlas. Still would be cool to see a zook with one.
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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well budget left overs from my return is $3500.
i figure ill consult with Wilso's Customs and get some suspensions mods and just get 6.5s and go from there.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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Haha wait till I give you the current bill, thanks for giving me every bolt seized or snapped as I tried to remove 
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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LMAO what ones? body or in the front end?
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Swb Sierra twin lock 32s 6.5s
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 Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:17 pm |
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There's a better case then a atlas but can't remeber what it's called haha
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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i was pretty sure that atlas were the ducks nuts!!
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Daves4wd wrote: There's a better case then a atlas but can't remeber what it's called haha *waiting for Gwagen Jr to chime in* 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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^  Just the body mounts.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Daves4wd wrote: There's a better case then a atlas but can't remeber what it's called haha An Atlas recreated out of 300M.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
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tanshi wrote: i was pretty sure that atlas were the ducks nuts!! Debatable but close. The only real competition in the aftermarket is the STAK case which were experiencing problems with jumping out of gear. However they have just been bought out by TWF and are going to be very comparable to an atlas with more options it seems. Which is an option that the OP may consider but I think you're looking at extreme overkill.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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It's annoying the wasted space in the vitara transfer/gearbox I reckon, I think after talking about it here we decided it was because the auto box is longer so the manual box has a gap full of air at the output end before the transfer case bolts up.
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
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31zook wrote: Haha wait till I give you the current bill, thanks for giving me every bolt seized or snapped as I tried to remove  Shoulda seen his face/frustration when it snapped the third time.... 
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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hahaha man i get quite angry when i do shit like that. spent 2hrs swaping starters around checking if that were duds.... gave up bought a new one got it in and then snapped the positive off the solenoid
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
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SierraDan wrote: Daves4wd wrote: There's a better case then a atlas but can't remeber what it's called haha An Atlas recreated out of 300M. A mate was lookin at getting a atlas case in his wrangler and the bloke who's building it said said there's a case that's stronger and lighter... He's told about 10 times.... But I forgot hahaha it's something like a rock monster or something
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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If that was true dont you think the ultra 4 guys would be using them instead of atlas cases
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troopy
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 398 Location: bunbury
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The only case I could imagine that would be a lot stronger is a np205 but they are a heavy cast iron case with only a 2:1 low range.I have just fitted an atlas to a vit aw4 and it's definitely overkill and I'm not even sure it would fit between the chassis rails as it doesn't even come close in a sierra.
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