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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:20 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: i can see a few things that are against the ADR's 
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I live here!
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:24 pm |
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jonno_racing wrote: once again please fill me in. Keep in mind the rules for building a trailer are different in every state the axle is FINE i have called transport and asked already. I think there has been more than one person try and point things out in this thread but you won't take advise from people that do it for a living. I don't think any state in Australia allows for things to not comply with the correct VSB
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:28 pm |
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That's nice ball. Yet I just read though this and nothing actually mentioned?? Except for the drawbar. I will make the call tommorow.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:18 am |
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my thoughts are to build the trailer as strong as possible, with a lot of overkill. i hate the idea of having to leave the trailer on the side of a track somewhere because something bent or broke. my entire trailer is 50*50*3mm shs, with a 75*50*3 rhs draw bar. but my trailer is intended to be offroaded in the outback NT regularly. i would be concerned that 50*50*5mm angle wouldnt hold up over time for where i would be taking it. i have no idea where you'll be taking yours 
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:09 pm |
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if you use a new draw bar dont they class it as a new trailer? In qld there is no inspection for trailers that are umder 750kg.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:17 pm |
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But you do have to sign a stat dec saying you've built it to the QT requirements.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:34 am |
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so apparently my update didn't post? silly iphone spoke to inspector. no problems with welded stubs in the axel as long as its the correct size RHS (and it is) he said it was even better that i had plug welded it. draw bar will have to be replaced. i could legally leave it as is but i want to make it stronger so i will be replacing it with 50x75x3Rhs and that is fine in transports eyes. the trailer will now need to sit a full road worthy (to receive new vin), but the inspector sad "looking at these pics i cant see many issues as long as i continue as i have been"
Moral of the story, Build from scratch to start with and don't believe everything you read on the internet
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:25 pm |
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bummer. better safe then sorry i guess. dont forget to get a hitch mounting plate... waiting on mine is holding up everything...
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:46 am |
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It's not that huge it's deal! + I get to go to a single drawbar so that's sweet with me! Used the new winch on the Jimmy to.flip it over! On the to do list is.. Weld all the underside Drawbar obviously 100x100x4 I think Add another leaf and a bigger helper to the spring packs and paint the bottom! 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:52 pm |
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:57 pm |
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That is better, I liking that.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:04 pm |
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Yeah, triple mounted 75x75x3 hopefully it will be out of the carport buy sat.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:10 pm |
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I'll be doing similar to lengthen my draw bar next year. For its next reincarnation.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:19 pm |
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Some more Rear legs.. loving these, worth the extra coin i think!  This is a level for the drawbar, should make set up quite easy  New spring packs! well old ones, with a much longer/heavyer last leaf and a big fat helper. they feel a little soft for a inch or so then pick up quite hard.  a bit more of a over view.. still need to get some washers and spring washers for things before i can tighten it all up.. but getting somewhere  over the next few days.. tie down points for jerry cans, hinges for tailgate then a nice coat of olive drab... then to go is only, mount the tent down, and tailgate kitchen! i can nearly feel the relaxation on the first trip!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:23 pm |
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Jerry can mounts i was putting off this job.. but it was simple once i had set my mind on how i was going to do it  This little thing is worth its weight in gold! switchable magnet.. just makes jobs like this (hinge mount) so simple!  and FINALLY its painted Olive drab with a roller of course!  Still to go... Flooring.. mount tent tailgate kitchen.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:32 pm |
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Heideisadog

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Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:27 pm Posts: 403 Location: Canberra, ACT
Vehicle: 1996 Leaf Sierra - Soft Top
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:45 pm |
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Loving this build! Great job man!
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Sco-tie
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:02 pm Posts: 928 Location: Adelaide hills!
Vehicle: 04 Grand Vitara, 2.5L, V6
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:53 pm |
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Make sure you put something soft like some rubber or something underneath and where ever anything touches the jerry can, those ones will rub off the paint, rust and leak in no time if they aren't on something soft. Also watch out of the thin bit of metal joining the lid to the container as that will bend easily and not line up right. You can cut that and it will seal no problems though. Looking good!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:44 pm |
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yeah no worries! i had planned on doing that! on another note.. the tent is on  and dam it looks good!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:54 pm |
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Does muffin look fat on me? And my measurements are pretty spot on 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:24 pm |
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More ground clearance than the Jim 
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
Vehicle: sj51
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 Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:29 pm |
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looks good.. how much more weight is going into it? just asking as the shackles look to be around 45deg already
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russgt
Joined: Tue May 14, 2013 9:40 am Posts: 436
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:37 pm |
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Nice work. Whats the towball weight going to be like?
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:12 pm |
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jonno_racing wrote: This is a level for the drawbar, should make set up quite easy  drinking more also solves this problem.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:35 pm |
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i've got a phone app that does that 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:40 pm |
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the rhs between the axle stubs is what worries me. how have you glued these together jonno?
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:12 am |
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ajsr wrote: the rhs between the axle stubs is what worries me. how have you glued these together jonno? with super glue and fairy dust... how do you think lol with a weld?? and a plug weld.. its 50x50x5 and has been approved for usage. honestly in a trailer with a loaded weight of 750kg it will never be a issue. its not like its 1.5mm wall or anything pezz wrote: looks good.. how much more weight is going into it? just asking as the shackles look to be around 45deg already around 150kg to go. however we have had 300kg in the trailer (me and 2 big mates stood on the frame) and the shackles were still fine no more angle than what they have now. the springs are almost flat atm. russgt wrote: Nice work. Whats the towball weight going to be like? 75kg idely atari4x4 wrote: i've got a phone app that does that  where i plan on going, i have no use for a phone!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:11 pm |
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lots more done.  the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:21 pm |
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i ditched the idea of the plastic because of the price. ally was less than half ($120 for 2 sheets at capril atm) they didnt have any dull checker so i had to go for the "BLING" stuff... wont be a issue as it should be under a tent all the time.. there is a anderson plug on the drawbar that has wiring that go's up to the rear of the trailer (you can see the cable hanging out) that will go up into the tailgate, into a fuese box then will go out to Lighting... LED's Shit load's of them extra Anderson plug for the fridge when its used with the camp kitchen 6x usb ports a set of usb powered speakers and a 3.5mm jack so i can just run the tunes off my phone or what ever.
The jimmy now runs 2batterys with a manual isolater, the second battery has the line to power the trailer. this way when we set up camp we can simply switch off the main battery, use the second battery (320cc commodore unit) all night to run the camp stuff, then in the morning or when we leave camp i can start the jimny, then re-connect the isolater and go on our way, the second bat will charge whilst were driving!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:58 am |
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Tailgate. . Yeah today was fun. Still a fair bit to do but it's getting there. Latch. Still nead to run a foam seal around tge gate. That will make it water proof and stop rattles  Started to work on layout. The storage bins are $5 kmart units   Not a huge storage loss  Note the storage/cooker section bolts in. So can be removed when trailer is used as a trailer not just a camper  All for now. Will pull it down tomorrow, weld, paint and add the ally panels. Also need to change gas cooker to make gas outlet on other side and add a gas strut.
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