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Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:43 am 
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^^ I reckon I would have been right provided I did what sideways suggested.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:41 pm 
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Not sure if VSI 20 is still current but in answers to common questions (Jan 2000) under Q11 it states:

Q11: Doors - My four wheel drive has removable doors, can i leave them off when driving?
A: VicRoads strongly recommends against this practice, particularly when the vehicle is used on the road. However, if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle may be used without the doors fitted.

I guess the two areas that might fault this is if this has been superseded but I am not sure how to find that out and what defines "removable" ie is needing screwdriver ok? If you cut your hinges neatly I suppose you could argue that they came like that and then it is a tool less exercise

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonl ... /VSI20.pdf

I am not suggesting no doors is the best idea on the hwy, but if they arent required I suppose it opens up the possibility making our own half doors that just need to comply with the hinges and latching requirements to be legal

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:43 pm 
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Removable is pretty well only applicable to cars with canvas doors, and jeeps which have the slip-off hinges.

using a tool to remove them doesn't make them removable =) if you applied that logic any car has removable doors!

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:50 pm 
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Removable is pretty well only applicable to cars with canvas doors, and jeeps which have the slip-off hinges.

using a tool to remove them doesn't make them removable =) if you applied that logic any car has removable doors!


But what tool :twisted:


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I have some [sierra doors] but I cut the bits off that rattle

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:24 pm 
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But certain models of Sierra and LJ had cut hinges from the factory.

Right? ;)

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:54 pm 
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It doesnt state that it has to be done without any tools in that document. The fact that suzuki use philips screws and have external hinges should go a long way to prove that they were designed to be easily removed.
If there are any suzuki manuals that reference door removal I think that would also be very helpful.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:13 pm 
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Annoyingly, that document doesn't really clarify anything.... And we go around in circles again.

The engineer we are working with says no, so that looks like a no. The conversations I've had with friendly police officers about running doorless was along the lines that a less friendly officer wouldn't care what you said, they'd defect the car and let you sort it out.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:21 pm 
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Jonno wrote:
The fact that suzuki use philips screws and have external hinges should go a long way to prove that they were designed to be easily removed.

Have you ever tried removing the hinges with a mere phillips head screwdriver on hinges that have never been removed?

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:24 pm 
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SierraDan wrote:
Jonno wrote:
The fact that suzuki use philips screws and have external hinges should go a long way to prove that they were designed to be easily removed.

Have you ever tried removing the hinges with a mere phillips head screwdriver on hinges that have never been removed?



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Post Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:43 pm 
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SierraDan wrote:
Jonno wrote:
The fact that suzuki use philips screws and have external hinges should go a long way to prove that they were designed to be easily removed.

Have you ever tried removing the hinges with a mere phillips head screwdriver on hinges that have never been removed?


He knows, this man knows....



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