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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:24 pm |
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Just wondering if an Alternator from a 05-08 Grand Vitara with a H27a motor will fit in an older H25a Grand Vitara.
First gen Alts are only 70amp where as the later ones are 115amp.
They look the same and have similar plugs and so....
Has anyone tried one?
Be an easy upgrade if it did.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:35 pm |
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Is it the same alt. as the 98-05 h27a? Would be sweet if it could fit.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:58 pm |
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Looks the same but may be slightly different with the brackets.....Be nice to find out. Might try the wreckers for a price on one.
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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It's possible, I run an XL7 alt in the LJ. But then I did make brackets for it. 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:09 pm |
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SQ625 alt is 70amp XL7 alt is 95amp 05-08 alt is 105-115 amp
there are several different options out there but the above outputs are what I found.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:22 pm |
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The FSM I have shows the XL-7 as having a 105A alternator, the SQ625 should be an 85A, and the SQ420 should be the 70A
Be careful with the 05+ alternators - they are ECU controlled - the ECU monitors power consumption via a shunt in the main fuse panel and adjusts the alternator output accordingly. I'm not saying they can't be used, in theory if the connection to the ECU fails they will self regulate, but the connections are going to be different.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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My alternator shit itself tonight up at glasshouse  What's the best alt. I can bolt straight in? Xl7?
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Is it getting oil in it from your mega leaks, or mud related?
_________________ Chop
Suzuki's are like Mogwai's, they multiply!
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:32 pm |
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Leak is on the otherside of the engine... It's because my mate told me to hit a mud hole and it was over the bonnet... Lucky could reverse out and then the battery light came on. Had to get towed home because battery completely died.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:02 pm |
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Tyr flooding the alt with a garden hose...... And if you can get it started I should even wash it out of the windings
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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Already hit it with the gerny at the car wash last night, I can start her up just has to be jumped. Won't run too long though before it dies again.
Is there a way to check if it's charging the battery up?
EDIT: Did you have any luck putting in an xl7 alt b4t?
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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klutched wrote: I can start her up just has to be jumped. Won't run too long though before it dies again.
Is there a way to check if it's charging the battery up?
If it dies whilst the battery lights is on then that is a pretty reliable sign the battery isn't being charged. If you wanted to double-check put a multimeter across the battery terminals. You should see 13.8-14.4V at just above idle speed. BTW your battery will possibly need replacing as they typically won't last after a couple of deep discharges.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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Cheers, will check it tomorrow. Thinking maybe the battery couldn't charge fast enough to meet the power needs whilst the battery is that low.
Will get the battery checked too, i have the 2yr warranty on the century battery so shouldn't be an issue if it's stuffed.
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bohuler

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Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1376 Location: Avonsleigh, Victoria
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FYI the Century warranty will not cover over discharging your battery causing it to fail.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:53 pm |
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Does the alt. need a certain amount of battery left for it to work? Charging up the battery now so we'll see how it goes.
Xl7 alternator looks exactly the same as the gv so if it's stuffed ill get one of those.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:51 pm |
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Charged the battery up, starts no worries. Does the battery light come on if the alternator is faulty? Mine is still on even though the battery is fully charged.
Ordered an XL7 Alternator so hopefully get that in this week.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:08 pm |
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Light staying on would indicate the alternator is faulty. Did you check voltage output with a multimeter? A multimeter will determine if the battery is being charged.
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klutched

az supporter
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:21 pm |
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Oh yeah I did that too, it just sits on 12.8volts so I'm guessing it's not working because it should be 13.5+
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