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VonDecoy
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:47 am Posts: 358 Location: Mount Barker
Vehicle: Black '96 X-90
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Get the best plywood you can afford. ....somthing with an A bond will be the strongest. I scored a few sheets of 'boral' structural ply left over from a job years ago. Its been left outside for a couple of years and is still awesome. The crap you get from bunnings on the other hand will look scond hand at the 1st sight of moisture. Heres a good read.... http://sharpplywood.com.au/Facts-About- ... 17485.htmlOh, and anything made by sika is awesome. If ya paying more than 10 bucks for a sausage of sikaflex you are getting ripped. Bunnies screw ya for it, they want nearly 30 bucks a saus. I think I only pay 8.50+gst for it.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Thanks muchly, saved that. Saw some sikas in my Bunnings, were $8;50 a sausage, but didn't look at them closely.
Getting some structural ply sheets from a mate for the sides.
I will need to decide on a floor, is plywood marked for easy (dumbo) identification? I guess I can look for AS/NZS 2269 Type A Bond on them.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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VonDecoy wrote: I didn't hear a "No". 
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sierrajim
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 345 Location: Hugging Royce behind the shelter shed
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra
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Maybe try all board distributors in bayswater
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I finish up in Bayswater a lot. Many good industries around there.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Decided steel was cheaper, lighter, stronger and thus a better option for the chassis extensions. I got started on front, but ran out of day. 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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here r some ideas to think about -get a good epoxy paint to paint the ply inside and out and all cuts and skip the extra sheeting to save weight except for the front to take the rock strikes -sika flex alloy angle inside and out and pop it on . It will allow it to flex and not tear its self apart . used seal riverts -making a thin wall down the length of the trailer under the bed will allow thinner ply to be used on top with out it bowing - go gbanger on the bed with a hole saw to save weight and let air up to the bottom of bed to stop mould and keep cooler - a shelf above the feet will allow extra storage and give strength to the top a lift up rear door will allow entry in the rain with out water getting in u can get plastic hinge that is like a seal that is water proof when open. make the door add strength when closed by using something like 4 tail gate pins that come through and turn. they can have pad locks put through them.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Love your thinking. Pretty much decided not to skin anything. Good paint be wiser. And definitely will be alloying the corners. Speed holes in a plywood sheet is a good idea. I like the plastic hinge idea, will look into that.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Got a present of some A Bond structural ply, thankyou muchly mate . Got started on the rear chassis extension. The odd positioning of the the 2 outers, is to allow access to some bolts etc. for trailer maintenance. And was the only way to support rear floor at its sides over a longer stretch. And better flatness of floor, because my original chassis has 3mm step ups in it.     
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I have given thought to rear door set up. Decided against a lift up, as I always hit my head on stuff like that. Will have to duck a tad to get in. Will have a clip on fly as an annexe, Rear door will probably open sideways, and have knick knack shelves on it. Won't be all the way across the back, want to leave room for lights and stuff, plus it will give more support to the it all.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I will be putting a skin in the wheel arches, and the front of course. And maybe under front a tad, too.
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Matthew
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 472 Location: S.E. Melbourne
Vehicle: SWB Sierra
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There is a crappy looking GV in your garage, I'll come and get rid of it next Saturday 
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Matthew wrote: There is a crappy looking GV in your garage, I'll come and get rid of it next Saturday  Excellent. Be nice to have me work bench back 
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Chassis extensions and floor supports all done. After a rest, I will glue, screw and paint the bits of chassis that will be hard to get to. I'll leave top of the chassis unpainted, ready for gluing on the floor. It's too big to leave in front of my door now. Will fit nicely in the garage, though.  
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Chassis extensions are all glued, screwed, etc. and ready for tar paint. Need to fill/skin the inner guards first, though, then start on camper floor.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Was curious about uniboard plywood alternative sheets. No painting, no rot and use normal wood tools. I'll have to stick to ply and paint Quote: 1. UNC01202412-01 1.000 290.29 290.29 29.03 319.32 UNIBOARD BLACK 12MM 2.44M X SH SH 1.22M Freight: 40.00 4.00 44.00 Total Excl.GST $330.29 Total GST $33.03 ______________ Total Incl.GST $363.32
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Did the wheel arch skins today, took longer than I expected, but you tend to expect that. Bitumen/tar paint for hard to reach chassis bits, before floor goes on is next job. Floor will get a coat of tar underneath, too, after its laid.  
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Why not paint the base before it goes down. Then apply a second coat once its on to seal it to the base frame?
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Had that thought, would make things easier, but I was concerned that gluing down the base onto tar paint may not work well. I am too clumsy to miss bits with the paint. Will have to suck it up, and paint it from underneath. Be glad to get away from the crawling/bending jobs.
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jonfromhamilton
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:11 pm Posts: 410 Location: Pakenham
Vehicle: SJ51T
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Tip it on its side and paint the underneath, it's a Zook so it will go over easy
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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jonfromhamilton wrote: Tip it on its side and paint the underneath, it's a Zook so it will go over easy That's how I did the original trailer. May do that. Tho it wasn't as easy as I expected.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:47 am |
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Am researching plywood floor thicknesses and weights, trying to decide on 7mm 9mm 0r 12mm
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Sometimes Ya win. Had some left over Ormonoid tar paint from a previous job. At the time I was grumbling about having to buy a big tin for a wee job. But it was the perfect amount to do todays paint job. Rest of tar paint will be after the floor is fitted. Which will be when next dollars arrive.  As usual Princess wants in on the action  
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:57 pm |
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I tried the 7mm on the floor, definitely need to upsize to 9mm or 12mm. Will use 7mm on the bed, sides and front, and may go thinner for the roof.
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jonfromhamilton
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:11 pm Posts: 410 Location: Pakenham
Vehicle: SJ51T
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You're making progress every day and doing me to shame Chris
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:32 pm |
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jonfromhamilton wrote: You're making progress every day and doing me to shame Chris You have other commitments, that can slow things. I have to stop working on it till next pay day now.
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Matthew
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 472 Location: S.E. Melbourne
Vehicle: SWB Sierra
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And you are both putting me to shame with my progress
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:45 pm |
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Built4thrashing wrote: Why not paint the base before it goes down. Then apply a second coat once its on to seal it to the base frame? Now my brain is working again. I can fit up floor and mark out where not to put paint, but that's also a good way to pre drill for screws. Then seal it with 2nd coat.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Got a bit done today, thanks Steve and Neo for the tools loan. It is amazing how much easier things are with good tools. Thanks B4T for some surplus. I cut the main shapes first, leaving the arches cuts undone. Used the arches as a stencil for the cuts, as both are way different. Stymied now till the floor is fitted = wait for pension day. Resting and thinking time is always a good thing.   
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