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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Hey guys newbie here, ive looked around but haven't found a direct answer, will a liana 1.8 non vvt bolt into a 99jimny non vvt. The engine is already out of the car, that I want to buy. But has air con pump, power steer pump, and air intake manifold. And all the wiring for the 1.3, just wondering what else is needed, if conversion is clean swap.... Does it have to be engineered in nsw. Thanks a lot guys.. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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It'll fit, however you'll need the gearbox and maybe the transfer from an m series, and I think the loom from the liana???
I'm pretty sure there's a thread in the good tech section where someone recently converted a g series to m series... That'll be a good starting point for all your major needs... Then look at the m-series conversion thread for all your minor mods for the job
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:05 am |
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Ok thanks, I'm having trouble understanding engine numbers though, is it g13bb from 88-00, and then from there on m13a, Cause on eBay, there's and m13a engine out of a 99 jimny, so what's the go with that?
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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98-99 G13BB 2000-05 M13A NON VVT 06-Current M13A VVT G series use a different box and transfer M Series use the same box but different ratios for non VVT and VVT and I'm pretty sure only the VVT models have push button transfers. The non VVT gearbox is the one you want if you want to do the sierra transfer upgrade 
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Ok thanks mate 
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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jimny_timmy wrote: 98-99 G13BB 2000-05 M13A NON VVT 06-Current M13A VVT G series use a different box and transfer M Series use the same box but different ratios for non VVT and VVT and I'm pretty sure only the VVT models have push button transfers. The non VVT gearbox is the one you want if you want to do the sierra transfer upgrade  06-Current M13A A VVT
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Ok wait so is it just a mistake that the wreckers made, saying its a m13a for a 99?? 
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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My main concern with a G to M(VVT) swap is ECU. The G ECU would not know about some of the sensors, or the signals would be different, and a Liana ECU doers not know about 4WD.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Abouwer123 wrote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/98-99-00-01-SUZUKI-JIMNY-ENGINE-1-3-M13A-DOHC-11-00-/190673921888?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c650d2760&_uhb=1 Notice the engine mount on the front and the air box on the top. That's not out of a Jimny. Don't know what. Quote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motor-engine-Suzuki-Jimny-1999-1-3-M13a-/251256278294?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a800a8d16&_uhb=1 Both definitely M Series, but something is amiss with the years.
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Bugsta wrote: My main concern with a G to M(VVT) swap is ECU. The G ECU would not know about some of the sensors, or the signals would be different, and a Liana ECU doers not know about 4WD. Would it be any different if they weren't vvt which they are not. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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There is no way a G series ecu will run an M.
Steve.
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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Ok thanks Steve, so would I have to change the loom as well as the ecu. Would it be easier fitting the 1.6 from a vitara, is that a g16bb or something,
Andre
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:40 am |
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Yep the 1.6 is way easier. Ben-t makes the adapter for the conversion I'm pretty sure
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Abouwer123
Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:04 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 92 Sierra hardtop
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:47 am |
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Ok, do you know anyone on here that's done it, is it straight bolt up (with the adapter )and will it work with the 1.3 loom and ecu 
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