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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:20 am |
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So when is the H27 going in? 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:33 am |
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sideways wrote: So when is the H27 going in?  Or a 2.4 GV in my future 
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sideways

az supporter
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:42 am |
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:30 am |
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In my researching of vinyl/lino flooring it is starting to look like a bad idea. Partly due to huge temperature changes causing warping. And also sealing of edges to stop water getting underneath. And still need to waterproof/paint the floor first anyway. Adding up to more cost, fiddlier to fit and may not suffice for the job.
Coming up in the search a lot was decking paint. Some come in one step paints, too. This with a removable unfitted carpet is winning my thoughts now.
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missmyljdaze
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 2323 Location: perth
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christover1 wrote: In my researching of vinyl/lino flooring it is starting to look like a bad idea. An option here- SIKAFLEX make a roofing membrane that you glue on- but join it with a heat gun. [one side has a lower melting temp than the other] looks like heavy vinyl, grey one side, off-white the other, fibreglass reinforced. Being a roof membrane it is made to cope with expansion and contraction, heat, moisture etc. Any moisture trapped between the plywood floor and the membrane can permeate up through the membrane- kinda like a one way valve, lessening any likelyhood of timber rotting from trapped moisture [very common in caravans] I have a couple of rolls in my shed- however, getting it to you would be pricey- but if you contact your local Sikaflex distributor- they might be able to point you towards someone with some offcuts. P.M. me a postal address and I will send you a sample. stephen
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:01 pm |
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Sounds like it is worth doing. Not now but maybe down the track sometime. Have already bought paint. No need for a sample but thanks.
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offroadjack
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:09 am Posts: 292 Location: la la land
Vehicle: 96 SV620 shitbox
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We used sikaflex sealing refrigerated semi's. Schmitz trailers are build using no fiberglass or rivets at all !! All glued !! We used sikaflex for sealing external walls
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:22 am |
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Excellent. Glad to know it won't fly apart on its first rough trip. Or 2nd 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:45 pm |
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Was going to start painting the under floor bits so I could start cladding the front. But leaving the back end hanging was starting to let the ply warp. So I got started on back framing.    
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:06 pm |
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One thing I have learned during this project is, I need an extension lead that knows what tool I'm using next So many times I set up, hit the go button, and NOTHING 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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christover1 wrote: One thing I have learned during this project is, I need an extension lead that knows what tool I'm using next So many times I set up, hit the go button, and NOTHING  Don't we all. You are powering through this IMO.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:34 pm |
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Obsession helps 
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:46 pm |
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I can see most of that warping in your future!  What thickness sheet are you putting up top? And are you putting any extra supprt for the roof sheet?
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kirstyandgrace
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: fremantle
Vehicle: 1992 sierra
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christover1 wrote: One thing I have learned during this project is, I need an extension lead that knows what tool I'm using next So many times I set up, hit the go button, and NOTHING  True story right there, add to the list tool power cords that don't need to get close to their neighbor. Building my deck gave me the shits as my drill and impact driver insisted on being cosy all the time. As for warping, I think this may be a real concern as the side sheets of ply are maybe too big to not have some bracing. Ply is a pretty good material with quite good strength to weight qualities but large unsupported spans will probably warp. It would be a shame to see your efforts undone because of a lack of extra bracing. I could be completely wrong as I have never built such a thing. The rule of thumb I work to when building (floors, walls and decks) is to have any thinner material supported by a 450mm centre frame. Overkill perhaps. Keep in mind that all of my building activities are renovations on property I own and I am not a carpenter so I may actually know shit. Nothing I have ever built has fallen down though. Keep up the good work though, it is a pretty cool build. And thanks to missmyljdays for the trailer info
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Haven't decided on top of roof thickness yet. Front 3 sections will be 7mm, but may drop to 5mm on top section. Lighter up top could be wise, but only if I don't need extra bracing which could weigh more. More framing is coming, I ran out of wood and money. Any extra wall support or roof supports can be added later, just doing what needs doing at this stage. If it needs extra support for the longer roof section, I have areas it can be fitted. Leaving that till later, so as not to overbuild, and trying not to lose any width in bed area..
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Can you come build my shipping container house when you are done  I think you'll need to brace inside it quite a bit, just to hold up to being towed on rough surfaces, there is a lot of leverage in the roof flexing the sides and most teardrop plans have a frame that is then sheeted with wood. As a bonus it gives you space to fit insulation.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:08 am |
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Lots of framing going in. Won't finish till next lot of money comes in. Just putting in what I can for now. Roof is getting double skin with insulation. Sides will be exposed framework with wallpaper maybe.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:57 pm |
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Finished the underbed supports, which are also load separating sections. I left space under for easier cleaning. Got some more framing done.   
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kirstyandgrace
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: fremantle
Vehicle: 1992 sierra
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 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:20 pm |
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Looking good. And yeah, I hear you about the money thing, it all adds up. I like what you are doing with this, and I am seriously considering it.
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kirstyandgrace
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: fremantle
Vehicle: 1992 sierra
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 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:43 pm |
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Where's the update ? I am getting very interested in this. 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:57 pm |
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Got some more internal framing done, including some diagonal bracing, until the wood, screws and glue ran out. So got on with making the bed base bits, including speed holes, for air and lightness.    
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:10 pm |
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Got the underfloor painting done, thank goodness, that was harsh on knees and back  Bed base is now ready to fit, once paint is dry.  Have decided rear door will be an arch type shape, cut from the same panel used on rear section. Should give a more accurate door fit, and better rear structural support. Only need full width door at the bottom, so my fatter bits fit, head will happily fit a smaller gap (Some/many/most would argue that)   
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Loosely fitted the bed base, as I needed it to crawl in through the front, to be able to stencil the rear door. Measuring doesn't cut it, when nothing is ever real square. Got as far as I could on the rear section and door. Rest has to wait for more screws, glue and other pay day supplies. May be able to paint inside while I wait, even though framing is not complete.    
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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Wow! I want to build one of these, looks like fun. You've done a great job and thanks for all the photos. I'll enjoy the rest of this build.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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zukenutter wrote: Wow! I want to build one of these, looks like fun. You've done a great job and thanks for all the photos. I'll enjoy the rest of this build. Thanks, I'd be excommunicated if I didn't do pix  Tidying garage up today, after mate moves his wreck. Get reorganised for next few jobs.
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Matthew
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 472 Location: S.E. Melbourne
Vehicle: SWB Sierra
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Chris has his garage back Thanks again.
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:14 pm |
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 Dunno what to do with all the space, now, but guess it won't take long for me to mess it up.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:15 pm |
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Tomorrow I will start painting inside, that will keep me busy till pension day.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:27 pm |
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Matthew wrote: Chris has his garage back Used up the rest of the paint on the inside, not finshed, but its protected now. Areas still need more framing, so painting inside is not finished anyway. Worked out positions for lights. There is 3 holes to fill, now, measured once instead of twice before drilling :-[ Managed to hide woops holes behind the light ;D   
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:29 pm |
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Santa came early, so I was able to go buy more stuff this arvo, so I will getting onto the rest of the framing, gluin n screwin termorra
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