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gregwatkins75

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:13 pm Posts: 1334 Location: WeSt RaDeLaIdE
Vehicle: Suzukiless these days..
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Have finished swapping the front hubs/ wheel bearings over yesterday.. bought new hub assemblies! plan was to keep old hubs and put new bearings in them as a spare set, looks like the bearings are built into the hub?
It this correct or am I going blind? Can you replace the bearings in the hubs?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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circlip on the back side, press the lot out in one piece
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gregwatkins75

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:13 pm Posts: 1334 Location: WeSt RaDeLaIdE
Vehicle: Suzukiless these days..
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 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:14 pm |
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Big nego on the circlip Royce.......
did manage to jack out the bearing race , and ball bearings, looks as if the hub and bearing is all one piece?
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:35 pm |
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Bearings can be bought seperately so you should be able to remove and swap. I just did mine a few weeks back and it cost bugger all more for the hub with bearings already pressed in.
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gregwatkins75

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:13 pm Posts: 1334 Location: WeSt RaDeLaIdE
Vehicle: Suzukiless these days..
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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There are two different styles - one has removable bearings, the other does not - I believe they are interchangeable.
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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My RHS hub didn't have a circlip on it, but it had the groove there so I went down and got one when I had a new bearing pressed in, cost $4. Pressing the old bearing out and new bearing in cost $10 and the bearing kit cost $55 posted off ebay, but if you want 2 you can get them for $100 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Front-Wheel- ... eca&_uhb=1fordem wrote: There are two different styles - one has removable bearings, the other does not - I believe they are interchangeable. So if you have the one without the removable bearing you have to get a whole new assembly? Also Greg make sure they're torqued up to 215nm I think it is or they'll keep blowing like mine...
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gregwatkins75

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:13 pm Posts: 1334 Location: WeSt RaDeLaIdE
Vehicle: Suzukiless these days..
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Klutched try 155, instead, that's what the fsm suggests as mid range for torque..... I have one of the larger regular torque wrenches, cost a bit of coin, and it tops out at 200nm, that was the highest rating I could find without spending lots.... I really think most people would struggle to tighten a something to those pressures without a huge extension for leverage..
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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non replaceable bearing in a SQ vitara is news to me ...
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magnat

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Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1066 Location: Southern Highlands N
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The Ones for my 01 XL-7 were a Hub and bearing unit...
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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losfer wrote: non replaceable bearing in a SQ vitara is news to me ... Attachment: GV_FRONT.jpg This is taken from the Suzuki Worldwide Electronic Parts Catalog and is from the Australian market section, an SQ420-2 to be specific.
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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gregwatkins75 wrote: Klutched try 155, instead, that's what the fsm suggests as mid range for torque..... I have one of the larger regular torque wrenches, cost a bit of coin, and it tops out at 200nm, that was the highest rating I could find without spending lots.... I really think most people would struggle to tighten a something to those pressures without a huge extension for leverage.. Just jumped on auto data and checked it up Front Hub torque should be 216nm OR 157LB/FT. Probably get onto that asap. I found $45 1/2" torque wrench that goes up to 210NM
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schmiffee
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:16 pm Posts: 123 Location: Gold Coast
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Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I am looking at replacing the front wheel bearings on my 2003-2005 GV which comes as a complete hub/bearing assembly. However, I only JUST replaced these in April 2013!! Two years out of a set of bearings seems ridiculous to me. I am running slightly larger tyres (227/75/16), and I can understand that these would be putting more pivot load on the bearings/hubs, but I haven't heard of hubs being a problem before - just wondering if it is and I haven't heard of it, or my car is just screwed.
Last time I replaced them I purchased the bearing/hub assembly from Global Auto and installed them myself with the GV tool AND torque wrench - tried to do everything perfect so am a little bit puzzled particularly as I cannot justify $260+ every two years...
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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U been playing in mud? Is the seals and bushes good on the up and cv Mud can kill bearings fast Ive done bearings in like 10k because of a damaged brass bush letting water in to the hub
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schmiffee
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:16 pm Posts: 123 Location: Gold Coast
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The car hasn't been offroad once since I've owned it! The mechanic doing the aftermarket warranty service has said the last two visits that the wheel bearings have a bit of play in them...I might lift it tomorrow and check what they mean by 'a little bit', although I would prefer to have NO play at all when it comes to bearings... So I gauge it isn't a common issue then?? Maybe a dud set of bearings??
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Mate had a new wheel bearing fail pink slip because of to much play. Not much u can do they are crap design. U cant adjust them
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schmiffee
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:16 pm Posts: 123 Location: Gold Coast
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Anyone got a recommended supplier then - not keen to go back to Global Auto...
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schmiffee
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:16 pm Posts: 123 Location: Gold Coast
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Does anyone know if the bearings are replaceable in the 03-05 GV front wheel bearing/hub assembly. I called Suzuki and they reckon that they are, but from what I have read on here they aren't...I am tempted to believe here that knows what they are talking about rather than some numpty that can only read a computer parts manual...
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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And the numpty with the computer, if given the vehicle chassis number, should be able to tell you what that particular vehicle was fitted with, when it left the factory
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