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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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what about the stronger front axles thing the crappy chain driven transfer the piston skirts that decided to part ways with the piston the weak diff material that loves to tear holes in it
this is just for starters, the hate for coilys is for the fact that they are half assed.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Surely there's ways to do the front locker in a coily. Couldn't you put the coily radius arm mounts on a WT housing? Or use NT (cheaper) centre housing with coily axle tubes? Lots of effort but that's the price of being different right?
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Anthiron

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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Vehicle: LJ80 Stockman Tin Top
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Got CTP sorted and Drove the LJ80 down to the Safety Certificate place. The pictures are kinda crappy as it was low light but you get the idea. The paint job is pretty average. Lots of runs but looks ok from a couple of meters.      The specks are reflections of the flash. the upholstery is A1.  Should there be something here where these 2 holes are?  Nicko
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henno

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Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Which one?
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Ahh, so you are the one that finally bought that thing. It's been in my watchlist for an age!
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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So it's a Stockman, has the 26 spline axles in it's rear end, that's a good thing. Body work looks good from this far back. Little bit better brakes than a regular LJ80 too.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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Looks great. I want one too now. (actually I did before  )
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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from those pics it looks mint condition, especially for a hardtop LJ!
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Anthiron

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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Vehicle: LJ80 Stockman Tin Top
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:11 pm |
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Hi 3cyl - What makes it a stockman? and what are the differences?
Brakes were pretty average. I drive the Chevy Luv parked next to it as a daily and the 4 wheel drums on that thing stop on a dime compared to the LJ.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:29 pm |
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Should be some searching you can do but the Stockman has a plastic dash, funny looking grille, (long standing joke on here) bigger unis, bigger rear axles, wheel bearings, more switches on the column instead of the dash, bigger brakes. When working ok the brakes should work about the same as the ones on that nice chev Luv. Could be adjustment or seized wheel cylinder/s, remember there's no booster so you'll have to push the pedal a bit.
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Anthiron

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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Vehicle: LJ80 Stockman Tin Top
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Cool. Thanks for the info. I will have a play with the brakes tomorrow arvo. They dont feel broken. Just uninspiring. Like maybe shoes adjusted off center so that only portions of the linings contact the drum. No Booster in the Luv either 
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Toughy

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Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:49 am Posts: 67
Vehicle: lj81
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Nice lj mate. Dont spend any money on these brakes, not worth it for brakes that you have to adjust all the time. Highwaystars sierra brake upgrade is the way to go, and freewheeling hubs too.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Anthiron wrote: Cool. Thanks for the info. I will have a play with the brakes tomorrow arvo. They dont feel broken. Just uninspiring. Like maybe shoes adjusted off center so that only portions of the linings contact the drum. No Booster in the Luv either  From memory the big nut on the front (holding the drum onto the CV shaft) is 36mm. Most of us have Sierra discs and free wheeling hubs now days so not 100% sure.
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Anthiron

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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Vehicle: LJ80 Stockman Tin Top
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3cyl wrote: Anthiron wrote: Cool. Thanks for the info. I will have a play with the brakes tomorrow arvo. They dont feel broken. Just uninspiring. Like maybe shoes adjusted off center so that only portions of the linings contact the drum. No Booster in the Luv either  From memory the big nut on the front (holding the drum onto the CV shaft) is 36mm. Most of us have Sierra discs and free wheeling hubs now days so not 100% sure. The same size as a rear axle nut on a Volkswagen type 1. Just so happens Ive got one!
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Haha, we have old VWs here too, that's why I had one already.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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great choice, by the way all LJ's look good from a distance ha ha
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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The bonnet holes are because it used to have a Mack truck dog on there. That thing's been for sale forever, glad to see someone bought it. Carpeted interior is awesome.  That's super clean for an LJ.
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Trebor
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:53 pm Posts: 137
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra 1996 Coily
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tanshi wrote: what about the stronger front axles thing the crappy chain driven transfer So many poeple with a WT puts 1 ltr transfer cases and low range gear and the work to change it is minor as it is a stand alone case the piston skirts that decided to part ways with the piston Not sure what you are on about but these engines are very similar if not the same but if you are going to do an engine conversion like most this is irrelevant (if this is not what you are talking about plz explain) the weak diff material that loves to tear holes in it If you are putting holes in diffs you are doing something stupid, competitions or haven't got diff breathers
this is just for starters, the hate for coilys is for the fact that they are half assed. In general If you ask people the hate for coilys seem to be very misplaced
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Putting plastic bushes in the radius arms can cause the brackets to tear off the housing because the plastic doesn't flex as much as rubber
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:01 am |
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Seems like as a coily driver you should read more about them.
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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Anthiron wrote: 3cyl wrote: Anthiron wrote: Cool. Thanks for the info. I will have a play with the brakes tomorrow arvo. They dont feel broken. Just uninspiring. Like maybe shoes adjusted off center so that only portions of the linings contact the drum. No Booster in the Luv either  From memory the big nut on the front (holding the drum onto the CV shaft) is 36mm. Most of us have Sierra discs and free wheeling hubs now days so not 100% sure. The same size as a rear axle nut on a Volkswagen type 1. Just so happens Ive got one! Hahaha I thought EXACTLY the same thing when I read it, haha.
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Trebor
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:53 pm Posts: 137
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra 1996 Coily
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I have done research and I have seen that most people that have snapped them have hit something way to hard like a big ditch in the road at 70km/h
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:18 am |
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nope, its caused by flexing at low speed, ive heard of rubber bushes causing it too but poly ones do it worse. the weak axle tubes flex back and forward and tear.
the engines are not the same as a leaf one, similar but a different engine number, and the piston skirts do tend to snap
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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tanshi wrote: nope, its caused by flexing at low speed, ive heard of rubber bushes causing it too but poly ones do it worse. the weak axle tubes flex back and forward and tear.
the engines are not the same as a leaf one, similar but a different engine number, and the piston skirts do tend to snap most leaf sierras were g13a, after that they went to g13ba.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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5ierra wrote: tanshi wrote: nope, its caused by flexing at low speed, ive heard of rubber bushes causing it too but poly ones do it worse. the weak axle tubes flex back and forward and tear.
the engines are not the same as a leaf one, similar but a different engine number, and the piston skirts do tend to snap Early leaf sierras were g13a, after that they went to g13ba. There was a design flaw or fault when it came to the coily G13ba's. Pistons cracking skirts are a pretty common occurrence
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:33 am |
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Oh come on JR, why such hate for the coily.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:37 am |
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tanshi wrote: nope, its caused by flexing at low speed, ive heard of rubber bushes causing it too but poly ones do it worse. the weak axle tubes flex back and forward and tear. What Tanshi said, coil front end Landbruisers do it too, radius arm suspension is designed NOT to articulate.
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Anthiron

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Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Vehicle: LJ80 Stockman Tin Top
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Registered and on the road. Also added the AZ Sticker that arrived today. I have started a thread for the car in the Rigs forum. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=45624 Nicko
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Trebor
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:53 pm Posts: 137
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra 1996 Coily
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3cyl wrote: tanshi wrote: nope, its caused by flexing at low speed, ive heard of rubber bushes causing it too but poly ones do it worse. the weak axle tubes flex back and forward and tear. What Tanshi said, coil front end Landbruisers do it too, radius arm suspension is designed NOT to articulate. So what you telling me is that every coil sprung patrol, landcruiser, jeep and many other models that are used as extreme 4x4 dives aren't designed to flex????
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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This is gunna get good.  Compare patrol, LC etc to the Rangie Radius arm setup. Considering we're bringing un related models into it.... 
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Trebor
Joined: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:53 pm Posts: 137
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra 1996 Coily
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So compare then 
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