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RT001
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:55 pm Posts: 5
Vehicle: Suziuki Jimny 05 vvt
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Hi guys can any 1 help I am trying to fit a sc14 on My jimny 05 vvt Need pulley sizes and max boost on stock motor Was thinking 5 psi 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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You will probably be allot better off on a toyota forum ad there is heaps of jimnys here but not many SC14 builds. When you do work it out, please share 
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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At 5 psi, pulley size needs to be 61% of the harmonic balancer (jimny crank pulley) No idea how long the stock engine will last. Using this thread, and changing the 1.6 to 1.3. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22152&hilit=boostIMO The sc14 is probably too big, an amr500 would be better. It would be an metric assload easier and more reliable to fit a bigger m series engine.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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suzukiboy
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 607 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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shep wrote: I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/Saw the Bullet guy at the 4WD show in Brisbane, he will be coming out with a bolt up kit in the near future.
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RT001
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:55 pm Posts: 5
Vehicle: Suziuki Jimny 05 vvt
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Dan85

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Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:43 pm Posts: 389 Location: laurieton
Vehicle: 2012 jimny
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Ive seen some dyno sheets for a bullet jimny and it reckoned 80+kw at the wheels. I see drive train breakage! any way a jimny drive line will hold up to that sort of power? I know it depends on levels of mechanical sympathy but is there a way to beef up the drive line or if im keen enough to install a supercharger im getting solid axle hilux gear or similar installed?
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henno

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Which one?
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shep wrote: I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/Hold up. People are going to spend $6-8k (without even entertaining any driveline toughening up) to make a Jimny make not much more power than an M18 swap would provide? I'm all for spending money on toys (lord knows I've spent plenty) but that just seems like you'd reach the limits of the Jimny drive-line or the limits of your bank balance before it became a worthwhile expense.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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henno wrote: shep wrote: I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/Hold up. People are going to spend $6-8k (without even entertaining any driveline toughening up) to make a Jimny make not much more power than an M18 swap would provide? I'm all for spending money on toys (lord knows I've spent plenty) but that just seems like you'd reach the limits of the Jimny drive-line or the limits of your bank balance before it became a worthwhile expense. Firstly I don't drive like a ricer and I will spend as much as I want on my toy. Secondly what makes you think I don't have Plans for the rest of the driveline?
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henno

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Which one?
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Firstly, I have no issue with spending loads of money on toys, as I said. Secondly, beefing up the drive-line adds even more to the already exorbitant cost. Thirdly, see point one. 
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RT001
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:55 pm Posts: 5
Vehicle: Suziuki Jimny 05 vvt
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It's all fun u make it go good then u fu&k it then u make it bigger and better go hard or go home 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advantage over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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shep wrote: A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18 Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s
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RT001
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:55 pm Posts: 5
Vehicle: Suziuki Jimny 05 vvt
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Also any 1 no the best way to go with the comp piggyback or new aftermarket ecu
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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monley wrote: shep wrote: A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18 Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s Its funny you think apples and oranges are the same sheep. Maybe they grow on the same tree up there. 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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monley wrote: shep wrote: A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18 Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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shep wrote: monley wrote: shep wrote: A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18 Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s Hardly a fair comparison really then
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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monley wrote: shep wrote: monley wrote: shep wrote: A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18 Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s Hardly a fair comparison really then Why not? The end result was the same.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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jimny_timmy wrote: Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it Because the m18 is a dodgy conversion using 1.3 intake and management, a compleat solution for the motor being used is in my opinion a much better option. If the end result is close enough to being the same then why settle for something that isn't quite right?
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dougies_tx5turbo
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am Posts: 1051 Location: north brisbane
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shep wrote: jimny_timmy wrote: Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it Because the m18 is a dodgy conversion using 1.3 intake and management, a compleat solution for the motor being used is in my opinion a much better option. If the end result is close enough to being the same then why settle for something that isn't quite right? In my opinion all the work supercharging and redoing the engine management system really isn't worth the time doing it to a 1.3. There is some information on the swift forums that the M15 is a much better motor to boost and holds better boost then M18's, there is ways of fixing little problems such as porting and polishing. Which another person had done on this forum. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=39370&start=180And for the over fueling issue with the injectors that would be sorted when you re-do the engine management system. This doesn't apply to the above but they have fixed the throttle body problem on the stock motors. viewtopic.php?f=17&t=30308&start=210It doesn't really matter you don't want to run to much power on a jimny drive train as they are not the strongest.but you can fix al these problems it just costs money. If you've got the money then why not.
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