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Post Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 pm 
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Hi guys can any 1 help I am trying to fit a sc14 on
My jimny 05 vvt
Need pulley sizes and max boost on stock motor
Was thinking 5 psi :D

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:34 am 
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You will probably be allot better off on a toyota forum ad there is heaps of jimnys here but not many SC14 builds.

When you do work it out, please share :D

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:41 am 
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At 5 psi, pulley size needs to be 61% of the harmonic balancer (jimny crank pulley)

No idea how long the stock engine will last.

Using this thread, and changing the 1.6 to 1.3.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22152&hilit=boost


IMO
The sc14 is probably too big, an amr500 would be better.
It would be an metric assload easier and more reliable to fit a bigger m series engine.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:42 am 
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I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here

http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:48 pm 
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shep wrote:
I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here

http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/


Saw the Bullet guy at the 4WD show in Brisbane, he will be coming out with a bolt up kit in the near future.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:27 pm 
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Thanks guys

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:14 pm 
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Ive seen some dyno sheets for a bullet jimny and it reckoned 80+kw at the wheels. I see drive train breakage! any way a jimny drive line will hold up to that sort of power? I know it depends on levels of mechanical sympathy but is there a way to beef up the drive line or if im keen enough to install a supercharger im getting solid axle hilux gear or similar installed?

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:30 pm 
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shep wrote:
I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here

http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/


Hold up. People are going to spend $6-8k (without even entertaining any driveline toughening up) to make a Jimny make not much more power than an M18 swap would provide? I'm all for spending money on toys (lord knows I've spent plenty) but that just seems like you'd reach the limits of the Jimny drive-line or the limits of your bank balance before it became a worthwhile expense.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:05 pm 
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shep wrote:
I plan on supercharging mine however I will be buying a compleat solution from here

http://www.bulletcars.com/superchargers/suzuki/


Hold up. People are going to spend $6-8k (without even entertaining any driveline toughening up) to make a Jimny make not much more power than an M18 swap would provide? I'm all for spending money on toys (lord knows I've spent plenty) but that just seems like you'd reach the limits of the Jimny drive-line or the limits of your bank balance before it became a worthwhile expense.


Firstly I don't drive like a ricer and I will spend as much as I want on my toy. Secondly what makes you think I don't have
Plans for the rest of the driveline?

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:09 pm 
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Firstly, I have no issue with spending loads of money on toys, as I said.
Secondly, beefing up the drive-line adds even more to the already exorbitant cost.
Thirdly, see point one. :-P

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:14 pm 
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It's all fun u make it go good then u fu&k it then u make it bigger and better go hard or go home :)

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:11 pm 
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advantage over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:18 pm 
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18


Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:34 pm 
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Also any 1 no the best way to go with the comp piggyback or new aftermarket ecu

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:47 am 
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18


Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s


Its funny you think apples and oranges are the same sheep. Maybe they grow on the same tree up there. :roll:

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:24 am 
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18


Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s


M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s

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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18


Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s


M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s


Hardly a fair comparison really then

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:44 am 
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Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:14 am 
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A funny thing about m18 jimnys is when I drag raced one on a beach it had no advanagte over my geared m13. So I fail to see the attraction of a m18


Really? Cus i had diffrent result when I raced a geared m18a Jimny on 31s against my geared m13a jimny on 31s


M18 was stock geared. Both on 30s


Hardly a fair comparison really then



Why not? The end result was the same.

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:16 am 
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Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it


Because the m18 is a dodgy conversion using 1.3 intake and management, a compleat solution for the motor being used is in my opinion a much better option.

If the end result is close enough to being the same then why settle for something that isn't quite right?

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:58 am 
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shep wrote:
jimny_timmy wrote:
Why not supercharge the M18? Realistically it should all bolt straight to it


Because the m18 is a dodgy conversion using 1.3 intake and management, a compleat solution for the motor being used is in my opinion a much better option.

If the end result is close enough to being the same then why settle for something that isn't quite right?


In my opinion all the work supercharging and redoing the engine management system really isn't worth the time doing it to a 1.3.
There is some information on the swift forums that the M15 is a much better motor to boost and holds better boost then M18's, there is ways of fixing little problems such as porting and polishing.
Which another person had done on this forum.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=39370&start=180
And for the over fueling issue with the injectors that would be sorted when you re-do the engine management system.
This doesn't apply to the above but they have fixed the throttle body problem on the stock motors.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=30308&start=210
It doesn't really matter you don't want to run to much power on a jimny drive train as they are not the strongest.but you can fix al these problems it just costs money. If you've got the money then why not.

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