[Ausx90]

I'm after any info, prices, and any knob problems with turboing a g16b I'm not after big power just more torque

Thanks

[neofitou]

Basically if you need to ask the questions, you shouldn't be doing it.

G16Bs are old and crack. First of all you will need a newer one from a Baleno, then make sure you have several thousand dollars handy to do it properly to strengthen the motor lower the compression a computer and dyno time.
Turboing is generally not cost effective, if you don't need more power but need more torque, you probably just need some gear reduction.

Gears:
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/sidekick ... gears.html

Chris's write up:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30281

[buzbox]

Yes it can be done, but bang for buck, its not really worth it.

By that i mean youd get just as much or more power by doing an engine conversion to lets say a suzuki j20.

[zook_ute]

Definitely worth it, could be done on a budget if your sourced the parts in good used condition. I always thought that they were weak, i have since found out they are pretty strong lol I think if you were to do it a head stud kit and a descent head gasket would be the go. hold 7-9 psi with a good computer and tune lol

[buzbox]

How much did it end up costing you?

[zook_ute]

Well i went arse about face way of doing it, i never had a problem with mine though. I bought my motor as a built motor with 10000ks on it with like 12k of receipts. turned out that I basically got ripped off and it was just a standard bottom. Unfortunately I didn't find that out until I sold the engine to a another bloke. it was a nothing short of a nightmare really :/

I ran 12 psi, Chapmans tuned it. standard bottom end.

I think you could do it for around 6k if you can do some of the work your self

[Ausx90]

Thanks for the replies for 6k it's not worth it to me, thanks any way

[droverdave]

How do you come up with 6k for mostly diy?

[henno]

droverdave wrote:

How do you come up with 6k for mostly diy?

A decent computer and tune is going to be around a third of that already?

[Joshyboy26]

Assuming junkyard parts.

Turbo $500
manifolds exhaust etc $5-1000 depending on where from custom etc.
sensors computer wiring. About $2500
Engine rebuilt not including any comp changes with pistons or rods etc. $1000 diy
various hoses fuel lines injectors $800
Oils filters coolants. $200
And that's before a tune, all the little bits you forget and all the bits you fuck up and have to replace

[droverdave]

I bought a Haltech E8 for $200, even came with a 3 bar map sensor and an air temp sensor. Still an excellent computer. No need to buy a brand new one. Look for bargains and the price will come down.

[zook_ute]

600-800 ball bearing t28 garret turbo from s15
300-bov and boost controller
300-intercooler
300-intercooler piping
300-braided water and oil lines for turbo
400-2jz injectors modify rail to fit
500-750 turbo manifold and dump pipe
600-2.5 inch zest with a descent muffler
500-700 second hand ems stinger
1000-wire competer, tune descent ignition setup
150 good head gasket
150 head stud kit
400- vl turbo external fuel pump and reg few hose fittings

it all adds up pretty quick, there would definitely be a few things I have missed. The big problem is that nothing is off the shelf really, everything needs to be made to suit. seems to be a few people out there that have gone threw with the conversion.

suzuki engines free rev, i loved the power delivery my last one had. surprised a fair few people, blew off my fair share of ss commodore, even give the fg turbos a good run hahaha

[buzbox]

Have a look on other forums like boostcruising, or redlinegti. They may be able to shed a bit more light on the process etc. A few of the Gti guys use the g16b block with twin cam head and other crap which may give you a few more ideas. A few years back I do remember a GTi being about 8th on the FWD 1/4mile top 10.
But again, better off doing a proven engine conversion.

[got_bar_work]

Check u have 5.12 diffs not 4.8 and get tc gears

[vet 180]

zook_ute wrote:

600-800 ball bearing t28 garret turbo from s15
300-bov and boost controller
300-intercooler
300-intercooler piping
300-braided water and oil lines for turbo
400-2jz injectors modify rail to fit
500-750 turbo manifold and dump pipe
600-2.5 inch zest with a descent muffler
500-700 second hand ems stinger
1000-wire competer, tune descent ignition setup
150 good head gasket
150 head stud kit
400- vl turbo external fuel pump and reg few hose fittings

it all adds up pretty quick, there would definitely be a few things I have missed. The big problem is that nothing is off the shelf really, everything needs to be made to suit. seems to be a few people out there that have gone threw with the conversion.

suzuki engines free rev, i loved the power delivery my last one had. surprised a fair few people, blew off my fair share of ss commodore, even give the fg turbos a good run hahaha

I am going to play devils advocate on this post, although I agree with the general msg as things do add up fast.

No need for t28. A ca18 t25 with the .48 ex housing will be more suited, make boost earlier and still be capable to pump out 150rwkws. Can be had for $200-$300
Forget bov and boost controller. No need. Maybe budget $30 for a turbo tech
$500-600 for cooler and piping seems fair using new parts. Can be done much cheaper if your scrounge and use steel piping.
$200 for braided lined will be enough
$400 is way too steep for 4 2jz injectors. There are other cheaper options.
$1000 will be needed for basic log manifold, dump and exhaust with decent muffler
$150 head gasket
$150 studs
$1000-1500 for decent ecu and wiring and basic tune seems fair
$100 for the fuel pump, reg and fittings. $30 at u pull it will get you a camera pump which is the same as the vl turbo. Any Nissan rising rate reg will be fine.

I think $3500-$4000 is defiantly possible with some shopping around and a little diy. Could be done much cheaper if you skimp on everything, but I think it's a fair budget for a good result.