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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:10 pm |
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Gday I'm new here trying to find useful info on a v8 conversion into a 92 vitara I have motor coupled to a brand new mk triton gearbox transfer all new tail shafts clutch adaptor plate just wondering if it's possible setup to get rid of the 1.6 whipper sniper motor in it just chacing some advice cheers
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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:25 am |
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Anything is possible if you have the fabrication skills.
I don't believe many people go the V8 route on here as most of us find the 1.6 EFI with gearing to be plenty.
If you look through the build threads, there are a few people that have put a V8 in Comp buggy's and such. My best suggestion would be to look through and see what they've had to do so you know what your up for.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:49 am |
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What side is the front tailshaft on the gearbox? You may have issues with length trying to squash all that in.
Personally I think the 1UZ is better suited to a bigger vehicle.... Hilux, 80 series, GQ Patrol, etc.
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henno

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Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
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Scrawn wrote: Personally I think the 1UZ is better suited to a bigger vehicle.... Hilux, 80 series, GQ Patrol, etc. Definitely. I like the 1UZ, but unless I was building a silly zook-bodied buggy I wouldn't throw one near a suzuki.
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:38 am |
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The shaft is on the passenger side I still want the car for the road too I have a fts Isuzu truck 4x4 which we take beach camping and all over I hiab the vitara on the back and take with us it just runs rough and a pain to tune put full carby kit in still won't idle properly so I'm over it I had a triton project that I sold the ute as there the ugleyest dopeyest vheicle I have seen haha kept full running gear inc brand new gas system I have thought of a 1agze motor but I don't have one
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henno

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Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:48 am |
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Just put an EFI engine in the vitara and call it done.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:51 am |
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Vitara front shaft is drivers side so already you have an issue with the Triton box. If you were to swap Triton/Pajero diffs into it you'd be up for some serious fabrication. Your rear tailshaft would be ridiculously short due to length of engine/gearbox combo and getting it engineered for road use would be a nightmare. You're better off finding an EFi Vitara motor and swapping that in, or stuffing the 1UZ into a Hilux, Pajero or similar.
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:58 am |
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Ok cool so basically that's that hahah I didn't want to pull car to pieces if it's a waste so the efi is a better solution what is one worth and what cars were they in is the 1agze any good supercharged? As a option as well
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:09 am |
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4AGE motors are getting hard to find now and you'll have to adapt the engine to the gearbox. Still a viable option but the Suzuki EFi engine is a much easier swap and gives a decent power upgrade. LWB Vitaras all ran them and usually go for $800-1,500.
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:18 am |
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Ok cool what are they called I mean what am I looking for engine wise for vitara think mine is a 1gb
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:42 am |
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The most common EFi Suzuki engine is the G16B
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cairns27
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:42 pm Posts: 489 Location: Macleay Island
Vehicle: '95 Vitara JXI LWB G16B
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Take the carby into a specialist.
bye
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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Converting a Vitara to 4AGZE is difficult if you wish to retain 4WD as the vitara uses a married transfer/gearbox arrangement. Therefore, you really need to adapt the 4A motor to the Vitara gearbox, not something there is currently an adapter for.
Other option would be to swap the 4AGZE to a Hilux manual and use a hilux transfer. I believe this is quite possible but all up it's a pretty complex way to fox a G16A with a carby problem.
Steve.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:35 pm |
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Vitara with 1UZ  looks like a hack job though. Non registered desert car  Ok if you are dead set on putting a v8 into a vit, the 1uz is the best choice. The 1uz is a short but very wide engine, which suits the vit bay better than an ls1 or the bigger bore v8's. The other good thing is that some vit's used an AW4 which will bolt up to a 1uz with some bellhousing, tc converter and input shaft mixing and matching. Although the one in the pic was manual with an adapter plate made. It is possible, but a rather full on job and an even bigger job if you want it to look good completed and work flawlessly. Much much easier just to get your carb woking well.
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:07 pm |
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Now that is cool that was what I that the prob would be ie radiator my measurements predicted that the radiator wouldn't fit
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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Really? An unfinished conversion, with no evidence it ran or runs, with a radiator sitting outside the car, is cool? OK. I guess everyone's idea of cool is different. Regardless, the location and size of the radiator is by far the easy part of this conversion. The issue will be retaining 4WD, and ensuring reliability of the driveline. they're going to be major headaches.
There are quite a few V8 vitaras around, including with LS motors, but few retain 4WD or do it without converting to a solid front axle to give the motor some room and the driveline some strength.
Steve.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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Gwagensteve wrote: Really? An unfinished conversion, with no evidence it ran or runs, with a radiator sitting outside the car, is cool? OK. I guess everyone's idea of cool is different. Regardless, the location and size of the radiator is by far the easy part of this conversion. The issue will be retaining 4WD, and ensuring reliability of the driveline. they're going to be major headaches.
There are quite a few V8 vitaras around, including with LS motors, but few retain 4WD or do it without converting to a solid front axle to give the motor some room and the driveline some strength.
Steve. Retaining 4x4 is easier with the aw4. The rad could easily fix, but the owner wanted all lexus gear including the radiator that wouldn't fit inside, after all it is just a hack job. An ls1 is a lot longer and a harder conversion and rarely retains 4x4. the 1uz is the perfect conversion V8 (if you feel you need a v8) for a vitara as you can use the AW4 and keep the stock suzuki aw4 with some mixing and macting of suzuki and toyota parts and 4x4 and driveline. Besides engine mounts its possibile to do with all oem parts and no adapter. The hack job pictured is just a dune basher, it does run the stock suzuki manual 4x4 with an adaptor.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:43 pm |
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200kw through a vitara transfer case/diffs? ouch.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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Gwagensteve wrote: 200kw through a vitara transfer case/diffs? ouch. And the huge increase in torque.....
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:39 pm |
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Going to take body off chassis soon to do ground up rebuild been in Moore river for a week and love the vitara just needs some much needed upgrades suspension diffs transfer box then my all important engine conversion trying to decide swift gti 463t eco or a 4agze setup
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:40 pm |
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Bloody spell check 4g63t evo
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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$100 says unfinished project.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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Rockman500 wrote: Going to take body off chassis soon to do ground up rebuild been in Moore river for a week and love the vitara just needs some much needed upgrades suspension diffs transfer box then my all important engine conversion trying to decide swift gti 463t eco or a 4agze setup swift gti is a downgrade in displacement 4agze could be good 4g63t is too heavy imo, there are better turbo 4cyls to choose from.
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:06 pm |
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I have pulled body off chassis today engine box out 1 uz and box sitting in chassis how do I post pic
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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 Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:18 pm |
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Do you have a photobucket account?
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:23 pm |
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No sorry just have them on my iPad I took some photos as I was doing it cheers matt
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
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Rockman500 wrote: No sorry just have them on my iPad I took some photos as I was doing it cheers matt Make a photobucket account and upload onto photobucket then you can embed it here
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Rockman500
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:04 pm Posts: 101
Vehicle: 92 vitara
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 Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:39 pm |
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wouldn't you be better off leaving the body on so you can locate the motor to suit the body?
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