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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:41 pm |
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Hey guys,
I've picked up a Vitara power steer set up for the Coily. It has a bracket for the pump but the vehicle its coming from doesn't have AC. I have factory AC in mine so i'm wondering if its as easy as getting a Vitara AC/PS bracket and hoping my AC compressor is similar or looking at a Jimny setup? are Jimny PS pumps same as a vitara (or similar)?
Any help would be great.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:08 pm |
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What a coincidence that you posted this. 60-ZUK is still running the G13a?
This weekend I was thinking about pulling the power steer bits out and having a look at the pump and whether I could make a bracket. I'd be looking at it during the week but my Sierra and all the parts are about an hour and a bit down the track.
Unfortunately metal work isnt my strong point so hoping to hear of an off the shelf suzuki part answer too.
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:13 pm |
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Marko_SJ wrote: 60-ZUK is still running the G13a?
Correct.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:36 pm |
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Ill have a look tomorrow if i remember.
Jimny, vit and baleno pumps seemed very similar mounting wise, i know the inlet hose can be different between vits, so would expect some variation between models. My soft top sierra has vit p/steer, and a whole jimny set up to go in my tintop. Soft top used a custom bracket with vit pump bracket. Non modified, the pulley does belts on the radiator bracket. Jimny bracket is quite different, so too is baleno.
Trying to package a/c and p/steer may be a challenge.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:48 am |
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Baleno's ps pumps are up high.
I can try fit a vit pump in a high Baleno bracket. It might be a good start. I don't have a Baleno ps pump to compare.
G16b are taller than the cute G13a/b/ba/bb so theres going to be some differences with the bracket fitting on the block.
The bracket is small and mild steel, so it can be easily modified.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Im pretty sure the jimny pump will fit in the baleno bracket. I Looked into it, i think it would require some mods to fit really well (balenos have an engine mount bracket that sits behind it, which makes the p /steer pump sit out more than it needs to.) But fitting the a/c in a baleno bracket, it's into the radiator support bracket and chassis.
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:54 am |
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This is why I was thinking Vit or Jimny brackets, as they have ac and ps standard.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:33 am |
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Vit brackets dont fit, they are into the chassis rail and radiator support bracket. Sierra chassis rails are closer together than Jimny and Vit Jimny a/c is just as low as baleno and will be just as into the radiator support/sierra chassis. Might even be worse than the baleno bracket. Borrowed from Phills Genki build thread. 
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Im just going to throw this out there, but perhaps there was a reason why suzuki only offered the option of power steering or air con, not both in a sierra.
The baleno one tucks in nicely, and should clear the chassis, it will be a SOB to squeeze in and install. But the radiator support bracket (welded to chassis), and radiator bracket is in the way.
You could tilt the engine over and trim the radiator support bracket, and bracket - been done before Move the radiator support bracket, and straighten the bracket - seems like the option I will take.
Last edited by jdk81 on Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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jdk81 wrote: Im just going to throw this out there, but perhaps there was a reason why suzuki only offered the option of power steering or air con, not both in a sierra. I believe you are onto something there.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:17 am |
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I used all vitara bits in mine. Power steering pump, AC compressor and brackets. Pretty sure your AC compressor is the same denso one as mine so it all should bolt up. Only mod I had to do was trim the radiator bracket and rad bracket chassis mount. This was on a g16b. Should be easy enough to adapt the mount to your 1300 tho. I'll grab some pics when I get a chance
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kenzook
Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:54 pm Posts: 153 Location: gold coast
Vehicle: 98 sierra coily
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Very interested in this thread because I have a Baleno G 16 with jimny power steering and I have just found Sierra air conditioning that I want to try and fit as well
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kenzook
Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:54 pm Posts: 153 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:48 pm |
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I wish it was easy to put pics on here. We could all compare components and mounts and probably figure something out.
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:14 pm |
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I got JuniorJoel to send me a couple of pics of how his is mounted. Standard g13bb setup  
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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This is what the vit denso A/C compressor and power steer pump looks like on a g16b  Here's what it looks like in my rig  Not sure if the coily is the same as a WT but all I had to do was trim the radiator bracket on the chassis and the radiator upright bracket. No biggy. 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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greenzook89 wrote: Marko_SJ wrote: 60-ZUK is still running the G13a?
Correct. Are you looking to replace the whole standard setup? My pump has the wrong pulley on it at the moment, so I am going to change that over to a v-belt style (will this handle the pumps needs?) so couldnt set the distance forwards and back on the weekend. So ended up as far as a template to fit the front of the pump. Back of the pump I'll probably just run a strap to an extractor bolt, dodgy yes but my sierra isnt regoed these days. I plan to mount the pump off the same bolt points the AC bracket is, with a new claw shaped bracket directly against the block and the OE suzuki bracket on top of it and perhaps tack welded together once I know the alignment is OK. The pump Want33s sent me is tiny and there looks to be plenty of room to high mount it above the compressor.
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