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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:12 pm |
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Hi all.
Hoping someone has a similar set up and can help me out.
Vitara with calmini 3" suspension kit, including Lower arms. No body lift....
How much bump stop spacing will I need to stop a 235/85 R16 from killing itself on my guards? Front only.
This is a temporary measure until I can do a virtual lift.
Firewall and back of guards, as well as headlight buckets have been trimmed to within an inch of their lives already.
Running XL7 rims.
Cheers.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:13 pm |
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Worth adding... suspension is apart already, so a flex test is a little difficult.
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p0isonra1n

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Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:13 pm Posts: 51 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara 94 LWB
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:20 am |
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In mine with no body lift on 31s I had 50mm bump stop spacers and even then I could get the tyre to hit the the guard and all the weight was on that wheel.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:34 am |
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Yeah ok.
Cant have had much usable up travel. Ill start at 50mm and add what I need from there.
Cheers
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:43 am |
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50mm at the bump will be 100mm at the wheel. A stock vitara barely has 50mm between the bump and the a arm.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:47 am |
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How much of the overall length of the oem rubber bump stop actually compresses under heavy load?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:19 pm |
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Working on that.... 65mm spacer is needed.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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CJ ran a vitara calmini kit with 7.50’s on steel 2.0/V6 vitara rims, no BL, and had no/minimal tyre contact. That’s about as much help as I can offer. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:26 pm |
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If it ran bumpstop spacing at all in the front it was only the XL-7 shim.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:28 pm |
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:33 pm |
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  This is almost full extension. Maybe 5 or 10mm left in it. About 165mm total travel left. I can live with that for now. Id wager I would have needed an extension anyway as I reckon those calmini springs would bind before touching the oem bumps
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Yes, I’d agree with that- I believe the coils bind at full compression. I think the wider track of the 2.0 litre car along with the XL-7 rims are complicating things as they tyre can’t tuck inside the guard.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Check Shandy92's build thread?? He was running 31s with some franken-lift, but there might be some info there, even if just in images?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:52 pm |
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 Not pleased that I'm reducing travel, but here's what a 65mm spacer looks like. Hoping to get this down to 25mm or so after a virtual lift in the future. Steve- agree about the extra width giving me clearance issues. Alien- ill check it out. Thanks. At this stage I think the only cure would be smaller tyres or less panels.
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