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jimny06
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:27 am Posts: 113 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2" lift, 215 a/t
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Hey guys I'm new the the forum and suzukis. Have had a few Fourbies before most recently a tj wrangler with lift, front and rear lockers, winch and all the usuals. Bought the Jimny to have as a cheap daily and keep the short wheelbase fun happening!
Basically as its a daily i don't know whether the 80mm lift would be too much? From readin the forum im looking at getting some 215/75r15s so that i don't need any gearing adjustments and not sure what's the best lift a 40mm,60mm or 80mm. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to ruin fuel economy and general runabout drivability by lifting it too much. Would an 80mm tough dog behave ok on the road?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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Jimny bits 75mm lift, enough Said 
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jimny06
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:27 am Posts: 113 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2" lift, 215 a/t
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Also are all the jimnys the same in the way of suspension setup. Eg would a lift kit off an 01 fit my 06?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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jimny06 wrote: Also are all the jimnys the same in the way of suspension setup. Eg would a lift kit off an 01 fit my 06?
The suspension has never changed on a jimny ie. The same lift that would fit a '98' model will fit a '2010' model 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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monkey wrote: I would hate to see how 215's and a 3" lift would feel on any sort of side angle....
Goes heaps good  Drive sensible and you shouldn't roll
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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zooky08 wrote: monkey wrote: I would hate to see how 215's and a 3" lift would feel on any sort of side angle....
Goes heaps good  Drive sensible and you shouldn't roll
 235's and a 80mm lift on15x7 -13 rim's felt tippy 
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jimny06
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:27 am Posts: 113 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2" lift, 215 a/t
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Yes this is precisely what I was worried about. I wouldn't imagine 215s and a 2 inch lift would do much to the economy. What does everyone rate as the best and most versatile 215 for a Jimny. I'm after not an insane road noise but something that will do well off road also. Was thing bf Goodrich a/t 215s as they seem quite chunky for an all terrain. I've been a cooper discover man all the way but they don't make the ST in a 215 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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jimny06 wrote: Yes this is precisely what I was worried about. I wouldn't imagine 215s and a 2 inch lift would do much to the economy. What does everyone rate as the best and most versatile 215 for a Jimny. I'm after not an insane road noise but something that will do well off road also. Was thing bf Goodrich a/t 215s as they seem quite chunky for an all terrain. I've been a cooper discover man all the way but they don't make the ST in a 215  I have km2s in 215s, they work well were I drive, also kumos kl71 I thing they are all so come in 215s. Both of them really are no were near a all terrain but will perform pretty good offroad monkey wrote: zooky08 wrote: monkey wrote: I would hate to see how 215's and a 3" lift would feel on any sort of side angle....
Goes heaps good  Drive sensible and you shouldn't roll  235's and a 80mm lift on15x7 -13 rim's felt tippy  Can't expect much for a swb vehicle 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Why not? Mine is rather stable, as is smiffkids....
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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monkey wrote: Why not? Mine is rather stable, as is smiffkids.... Just saying still will be tippy at some stage. Mines doesn't feel that bad nd I was on a slop, but I have no sway bar and Jimmy bits shocks are quite soft for my liking.
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45tr0

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Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Vehicle: 09 Jimny, 3in lift & BFG's
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I'm running 215s on the 3inch jimnybits and don't find it too bad on side slopes at all.
Mind you, I'm not out there blowing up reverse gears either.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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I am only pointing out that a 3" lift(or 90mm JB lift) and 215's will be much more unstable than say a 2" lift with 215's....
What's the worst side angle/slope you have been on?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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my cousin is running 215/75r15 BFG KM2 with no lift at all in his jim.. it scrubbed a little when brand new, but given 5000km they dont rub anymore =P
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45tr0

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Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Vehicle: 09 Jimny, 3in lift & BFG's
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monkey wrote: I am only pointing out that a 3" lift(or 90mm JB lift) and 215's will be much more unstable than say a 2" lift with 215's....
What's the worst side angle/slope you have been on?
See, I don't agree. A 2 inch lift that has poor spring rates or is incorrectly dampened, can be more unstable than a 3 or more realistically 4 inch lift that has the right spring and shock rates for the vehicle's weight.
I agree that the jimnybits kit is somewhat overkill for a mild daily - that's what mine's supposed to be - but I feel more stable on this setup than the OME 40mm I drove a couple weekends ago.
Side slope was probably around 30 degrees at a guess, slippery Alpine clay and loose rock up past Licola. But driven carefully taking the most neutral line for pitch and roll, it felt pretty planted to me. You learn to cope with side slopes when your first fourby is a series landrover - those bastards are narrow and tall.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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45tr0 wrote: monkey wrote: I am only pointing out that a 3" lift(or 90mm JB lift) and 215's will be much more unstable than say a 2" lift with 215's....
What's the worst side angle/slope you have been on? See, I don't agree. A 2 inch lift that has poor spring rates or is incorrectly dampened, can be more unstable than a 3 or more realistically 4 inch lift that has the right spring and shock rates for the vehicle's weight. I agree that the jimnybits kit is somewhat overkill for a mild daily - that's what mine's supposed to be - but I feel more stable on this setup than the OME 40mm I drove a couple weekends ago. Side slope was probably around 30 degrees at a guess, slippery Alpine clay and loose rock up past Licola. But driven carefully taking the most neutral line for pitch and roll, it felt pretty planted to me. You learn to cope with side slopes when your first fourby is a series landrover - those bastards are narrow and tall.
So what your trying to say having a higher COG is going to make the jimny more stable then having a lower COG? 
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45tr0

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Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Vehicle: 09 Jimny, 3in lift & BFG's
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monkey wrote: So what your trying to say having a higher COG is going to make the jimny more stable then having a lower COG? 
Nope, what im saying is that stability isn't as simple as COG. spring rates and shocks mean every bit as much in managing stability as height.
and driver sensitivity to all of these factors and how they work Together is the difference between staying upright or taking a nap.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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No lift is "required" to run 215's.
Smaller lifts result in less compromised vehicle behavior.
Steve.
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
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I am running 215 on a stock Vitara with no hassles. If I want 235 then I would need a 2" lift. The Jimny would be fine with 215 as from memory it has more clearance than mine.
I am getting a 2" lift for the crossmember clearance, not because of any tyre scrubbing problems.
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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5 inch lift and 31s on 15x8-28 offset going nearly as wide as u do high,
and handles well
just ask alien or andrew about my weekend antics
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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^^ he likes to do burnouts, and he hasnt rolled it yet =) lol
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