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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:42 am |
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So the time has definitely come for me to replace the bushes in my control arms. I noticed last time I was at Glasshouse Mtns that I suddenly had rear steering... Not good.
I was going to wait until I could get a hydraulic press on sale but now I'm desperate. The back end is all over the place and I have a week to get it sorted.
Does anybody have any tricks for removing them without a press?
Also, where can I get non-genuine RUBBER bushes for a reasonable price?
Are Coily bushes definitely the same?
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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You can cut them out. I used a jigsaw to remove mine a while back. Cut the inner tube, then slowly work out if that makes sense.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:39 am |
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A vice, big hammer & a cold chisel.
But you will be there for hour's. 
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:27 am |
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Any ideas for where I can get the bushes? I got a price for 6 bush set of genuine bushes for $415
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II, SJ40, SJ40T, RS415
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I needed to use a 30 tonne press and a oxy to get mine out!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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greenzook89 wrote: I needed to use a 30 tonne press and a oxy to get mine out!
 Press should of done the job, if thay don't move, leave around 5t on em & spray with WD40 or similer, then let em sit for a bit, oxy's not good for cast arm's.
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:36 am |
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you can drop in to my place and use my press if you need to nutter. Depends if you get a better solution or not.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:15 pm |
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steve wrote: you can drop in to my place and use my press if you need to nutter. Depends if you get a better solution or not.
may take you up on that. Thanks
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II, SJ40, SJ40T, RS415
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steknig wrote: greenzook89 wrote: I needed to use a 30 tonne press and a oxy to get mine out!  Press should of done the job, if thay don't move, leave around 5t on em & spray with WD40 or similer, then let em sit for a bit, oxy's not good for cast arm's.
yeah needed it done quick tho, doesnt matter as i dont have that jimny anymore 
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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Pulled the arms today. Here's some pics of the slightly worn bush.
after shopping around for bushes I've decided to make my own from wood 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:19 am |
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I'll use balsa.
Seriously though I am going to make my own from some two piece bushes. Hopefully it works out... We'll see!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Have fun!!!

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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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steknig wrote:
I bet you've seen some bad ones
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: I bet you've seen some bad ones
Every morning when I look in the mirror.
had a guy get his xe towed in, he said it won't drive, must be the auto he thinks.
went out to look, see a drive shaft in the back of the wagon with a smashed up rear uni, asked where he got that, said he found it on the road when he broke down, asked if i wanted to buy it.
I said he may need it.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:26 am |
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I made my bushes today. Will be making a few mods to them but for now just concentrated on getting the Jimny rolling again.
This pic shows the donor bush on the left, cut close length in the middle and finished, ground down and narrowed.

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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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Took about two and a half hours each side. I left the metal sleeve of the old bush in place for a bit of extra strength and just cleaned the rubber from the surface.
After having a good look at the factory bushes I can't help but think they are definitely a contributing factor in the wobble. Two small rubber spokes holding it all together. They were definitely designed with axle articulation in mind though.
Including burning out my drill with the wire brush total cost is $180.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:51 am |
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The new bush we replace is solid, but that goes in the leading arm.
The king pin shim has made the bigest diffrence that i can see, notice a tighter drive right away.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:58 am |
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Yeah shims made a big difference to mine. I'm pretty certain that the primary cause of the wobble is side-to-side movement due to a lack of lateral ridgidity in the control arm and panhard bushes.
Then again I've had a few theories along the way. One thing for sure is that there is combination of factors that should all be rectified for a permanent fix.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:00 am |
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steknig wrote: The new bush we replace is solid
is it the same as control arm-to-chassis bush?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: The new bush we replace is solid is it the same as control arm-to-chassis bush?
Yes, rear bush on the leading arm, I told Suzuki that I think thay make no diffrence to the wobble, I fitted them then drove it, then fitted the shim's.
On the next one I fitted shim's first. shim's made a very noticable diffrence.
The new bush for the front arm is very stiff.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: The new bush we replace is solid is it the same as control arm-to-chassis bush?
hang on, do you mean same bush's as the front 2???
Don't think so.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:57 am |
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steknig wrote: zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: The new bush we replace is solid is it the same as control arm-to-chassis bush? hang on, do you mean same bush's as the front 2???
no
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: zukenutter wrote: steknig wrote: The new bush we replace is solid is it the same as control arm-to-chassis bush? hang on, do you mean same bush's as the front 2??? no
I tink the chassis side's of them are the same, will have a look at part no's on tuesday.
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