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Zachius
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 152 Location: Newcastle
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Yeah if I can not find a diagram I will just trace it back into the wiring loom, it is just easier with the diagram.
There must be different models of the ECU. I have a partial diagram that PJ.zook sent a while ago that appears to be correct for my ECU. It is attached.
There is also the model information of my ECU and a photo of the PCB.
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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I'll agree with Mr. Fat.
According to my diagram, A11 = Engine start switch.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Just beaware that there are a few different models of computers running this motor, and the wiring codes are very different.
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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Zachius, my ECU has all the same numbers as your does. I used PJ's partial diagram and it all worked.
Yes, A11 is VCC. I was looking at a different page when I posted last time.
I've attached the complete pin-out for you 
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Can anyone tell me where the powersteer idle up connects up in the loom?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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stockman wrote: Can anyone tell me where the powersteer idle up connects up in the loom?
You won't/shouldn't need it. Mine ran perfect without the load signal. (Vit system)
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Cool. I didn't think I would need it, but was going to have it just in case.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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BlueSuzy wrote: stockman wrote: Can anyone tell me where the powersteer idle up connects up in the loom? You won't/shouldn't need it. Mine ran perfect without the load signal. (Vit system)
Agreed, but in the one you put up, C16 pss
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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It should be the Powersteering pressure switch. C16. From my hand written notes from years ago! Its a Green with White stripe off the ecu.
If you need the colours for any other motor running wiring, i have them all written down here. 2000 coilpack motor. Unsure ECU Number.
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Zachius
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 152 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:26 pm |
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Thanks CairnsZook. That looks like what I need.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Thanks guys.
I'm stuck on 'EL+' it's a Pink/Black wire from A16
It runs to a diode in the J/B then comes out as Red/Yellow and Brown/White.
Anyone know where the diode is? I can locate it. Is J/B a junction box?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:41 am |
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I ran no load signals into the ecu.
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Last edited by BlueSuzy on Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Headlight idle up and demister idle up 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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The G13b/a is a POS!, You hear the thing idle up whether you turn the fan on or put your lights on. The G16b doesnt need it. The Bal alternator can handle it. No Drama's.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Thanks Tim!
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Can someone tell me why no one uses the stock sierra tacho? Can't it be wired up? or do you have to use the baleno tacho?
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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PJ's diagram says the Sierra tacho will not work. I didn't even try.
I have no idea why it doesn't work, maybe Tim knows.
It wasn't that hard to install the Baleno Tacho, just a little fiddly.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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I used Bal tacho and faces for both speedo and tacho, vit vss cable speedo mechanics.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Do you know why the standard sierra tach won't work?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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it's not something to do with the twin coil pack motor?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Correct. There is a mod you can do to the sierra tacho, but cant remember, extra resistor something.
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DiscoS
Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 8:50 am Posts: 82
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Hey guys, currently about to start my own 1.6 conversion.
The only thing I'm worried about is the tacho. Is it possible to keep the stock coily tachometer face? Even better, to keep the entire stock tachometer in place?
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J--A--C--K
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:48 am Posts: 253 Location: melbourne
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I didn't do my own conversion but I have the stock tacho , if I remember rightly it just takes one resistor changed or added . The guy that did mine found out how from suzi store in Perth. You could shoot them an email.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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BlueSuzy wrote: Correct. There is a mod you can do to the sierra tacho, but cant remember, extra resistor something. I looked into this a few years back but I can't find the details. If someone has a tacho to hand then if they can post up the number on the chip I should be able to find something.
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DiscoS
Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 8:50 am Posts: 82
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and i'm back, with photos! So, here they are (Baleno Coil Pack on top, Vit 16v below)  As you can see, Bal is smaller. The flipside:  And the flipside-flipped:  Plot twist, they're identical! The only difference going on that I could see, is the Bal tacho, has an "E" printed on it
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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Yes, the circuit should be the same but the component values may be different.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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My first zook I used the Baleno Tacho circuit grafted into the Sierra Cluster, with Baleno gauge/face and cut down Baleno shroud to suit gauge. I also ran Baleno Speedo Gauge.
My new one has a Sierra Gauge but Baleno circuit. Baleno real RPM is remarked by a tiny line with a texta..Its close enough though. When it idles it purrs, When you hit max revs it bounces of the rev limiter from the ecu. So you don't really need the Tacho.
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DiscoS
Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 8:50 am Posts: 82
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Rhinoman wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Correct. There is a mod you can do to the sierra tacho, but cant remember, extra resistor something. I looked into this a few years back but I can't find the details. If someone has a tacho to hand then if they can post up the number on the chip I should be able to find something. Have i posted the corrected code? Ate you able to find anything?
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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What I need is the number that is on the integrated circuit.
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DiscoS
Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 8:50 am Posts: 82
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My 1.6 conv. is 99% ready, simply need to sort out tachometer.
Here are the ICs: (Integrated Circuits) Baleno: D 056956-0240 9927K AUS Carburetor '97 Coily: D SE258 7S31C JDM EFI Coily: ND SE258 1R25B
Haven't managed to find a way to get the tachometer working at all.
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