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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:04 am 
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I have a mill/drill which takes MT3 arbor. I have a 13mm Jacobs keyless chuck (decent one) which I put a holesaw arbor in as I was using a 54mm holesaw. So I drilled my holes no dramas, but when I came to undo the chuck, the bastard thing was TIGHT.

Short of going at it with multigrips :oops: how the hell do I get the bastard thing undone???? :x

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:07 am 
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I remember learning how to do it at school, but it was a long time ago :), maybe punch it loose with a drift?

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I remember learning how to do it at school, but it was a long time ago :), maybe punch it loose with a drift?


I can get the chuck out of the mill (give the drawbar a whack), i just cant undo the chuck so I can get the holesaw out.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:30 am 
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if you can get the chuck off, can you use a vice + mutli grip/vice grip?

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:37 am 
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if you can get the chuck off, can you use a vice + mutli grip/vice grip?


I could, but I don't want to mess up my chuck using multigrips on it!!!

Maybe some alloy or copper shim wrapped around it would protect it?

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:50 am 
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it's gonna look bad in 5 years time anyways... :p you could try a cloth... or search you tube....there are tips on ones with keys...couldnt see anything for keyless...bit of a silly idea IMO except on a hand drill

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:51 am 
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alloy or copper and vice/vicegrips/stilson/pipe jaws/hammer/bin

I HATE keyless chucks for that reason.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:51 am 
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oops I missed the keyless part, chisel into teh side :)

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:59 am 
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I have a feeling these chucks tighten as you use them, and the leverage a holesaw gives is why it is SO tight.

Oops :oops:

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They only get worse as the get older too..

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Did some more Googling, aparantly the way to go is hold it in a vice with soft jaws, then use a strap wrench to undo.

WTF is a strap wrench, yeah, I asked the same thing.

Will have a crack tonight, I think I have some aluminium scrap to use as soft jaws, i'll try to cobble together a strap wrench from old seatbelt material.

I hope it works coz that Jacobs chuck (precision model) won't be cheap to replace!

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Bout $75

https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Produ ... kCode=C289

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:54 am 
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Try an oil filter strap if you have it.

A decent keyless chuck actually has a couple of holes that you can use a C spanner to tighten or loosen the thing.

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Try an oil filter strap if you have it.

A decent keyless chuck actually has a couple of holes that you can use a C spanner to tighten or loosen the thing.


I don't remember seeing c spanner holes but i'll have another look tonight.

I was pretty sure ball would post in here and was expecting the first words of balls post to be "you f*cking idiot" :lol:

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Try an oil filter strap if you have it.

A decent keyless chuck actually has a couple of holes that you can use a C spanner to tighten or loosen the thing.


I don't remember seeing c spanner holes but i'll have another look tonight.

I was pretty sure ball would post in here and was expecting the first words of balls post to be "you f*cking idiot" :lol:


nope, I do that shit all the time. The difference is I know I have a spanner to undo the bastard. :wink:

I don't know how hard your chuck is but you may be able to drill some holes in the side like these ones.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:43 am 
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D-Clamp? thats how i get holesaws out of the drill when they get stuck at work...

doesn't mess the chuck up either :)

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:46 am 
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D-Clamp? thats how i get holesaws out of the drill when they get stuck at work...

doesn't mess the chuck up either :)


What's a D-clamp? never come across one of them

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Thats a d Clamp :)


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:22 am 
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dude dont use multi grips ..just a 3 inch g clamp.. a lot less brutal on the knurled surface . one of my fkn apprentices put a vice grip on mine.. i near killed him. and still might

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:27 am 
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Seems like this is a fairly common thing, I don't feel like such a dickhead now :lol:

Thanks for the tips guys.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:37 am 
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ah my bad, g clamp :D ... its a fitting tool. im an electrician :D... forgive the stupidness we work with our hands in the air :D

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:58 am 
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I destroyed one with a grinder to get a drill bit out.

$30 ozito drill that burnt out and had a good 12.5mm drill bit in it so I cut the thing open with a cut off wheel

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:05 am 
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since you have a mill drill just machine some flats in it

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:33 am 
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Maybe some heat could help..

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:40 am 
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flog it with a big hammer until it comes out.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:51 am 
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flog it with a big hammer until it comes out.


Yeah that should generate some heat :lol:

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:14 am 
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Was going to suggest the strap/strap wrench.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:31 am 
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i just use multi grips on mine at work, and put the drill in reverse... but i'm not overly attached to it :wink:

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