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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:28 pm |
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I need some good ideas for an tray
i know it would look better with he axle placed backwards
but that`s going to give lots of trouble to keep it road legal
anyone?!
pic's?
other advice or comments is always welcome
Last edited by brammie on Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:29 am, edited 2 times in total.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:01 pm |
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Don't matter wat u do it's still going to look stupid with a 3 foot tray
Coil the rear end then u can drag the diff back with out a chassis extention
Fliped controll arms in the original spring hanger might work
Then all u need is coil seat and a panhard rod and shock mounts
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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the big problem is that over here extending the wheelbase is an no-go
and it would not pass any MOT
damn i wish lwb sammy's werent so rare over here
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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It's not an extension of the chassis. You welded in some new sections to repair chassis damage, bugger....I cut them a little to long 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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There not allowed to change the chassis in any way or the car is never to be registered again
The bits 4 vits gv had the back bobed of and then he could never get it passed
Are u sure u can't extend the wb if u don't change the frame only add to the inside of it
It's all to do with rear crash rules or something like that isn't it
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:45 am |
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the wheelbase is registerd on the papers
and checked every MOT
maybe its possible to extend it
but it will be a long road
it has to be checked out totaly to get a new register
and then there gone bug about the spoa the engine the winch and all the other shit that makes it a good 4wd
and then after all the blood and tairs the are going to tell me that its never gonna happen
so then i lost a lot of money and still havent got MOT
meantime i'm looking out for an lwb chassis but there hard to come by over here
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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just put a flat tray on to cover it up then... no point trying to polish a turd =) just drive it!
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:53 pm |
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Maybe try to find an ID plate from a LWB, that could be easier to find.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:08 pm |
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Was thinking what about some kind of toolbox type tray? Depending on what you use it for.
Explaining what I mean, basically almost a flat trayback, but a couple of hundred mm deep and the lid on gas struts so you can put crap in it or on top of it.
I suppose it depends if you're going to cage it or not though.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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^ That looks like it has a double B pillar! Good for a spacecab.
If your able to weld onto the chassis, 3link+panhard the rear, link it for standard length wheelbase, and make longer arms, tailshaft for a longer wheel base setup. So that also means 4 rear top coilmounts. and 2 panhard mounts.. Makes things easier to swap for mot. But i guess they would pick on the welding too..
I watched a show a while ago on tv, looks like they are getting picky everywhere. Even russia, where the cars fall apart, so many trucks and cars failed and many old people were complaining.
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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Red89 wrote: http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=47840&sid=e21fd9c3ee1c9e7f02d2d8d9aea4d9a2 Its hard to tell but I think the axle may have been moved back a touch, but the look of the cage it self is alright. 
i now this one for a while
and the first plan was to build somthing like it
it has an vitara/tracker axle with coils under it
so its a inch or 3/4 longer
but then i came along matt's lwb and fell in love
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... k&start=30
it's just something nobody around here has got 
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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started on the tray
so the turd is coming back to live
plan is to make a short tray for the challenge i'm gonna drive in
so it's nice and tight between all the l#ndr#v#r shit driving there
not done yet so there's no sign of any bracing yet
but there's gonna be plenty of that in time
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Brenno
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 996 Location: Hobart
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Why so high? Putting anything on the tray will now be pointless as the COG will be so much higher making it more prone to rolling.
Why did you cut the back off in the first place, was there a reason?
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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because it was really rotten mate
there was no metal left to weld anything on
why so high? any lower and it would really look like shit
there's gonna be a box in between the bars so al the weight is low
oh by the way, i'm pretty long 
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Brenno
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 996 Location: Hobart
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brammie wrote: because it was really rotten mate there was no metal left to weld anything on why so high? any lower and it would really look like shit there's gonna be a box in between the bars so al the weight is low oh by the way, i'm pretty long 
Thats a fair enough reason, I was only asking to find out what sort of tray you were going for. Eg: if you chopped it because you are going to use it in competitions, then storage isnt really neccessary, however if you chopped it because you were hoping to store more crap, then you would need a very useable tray.
I still think lower it so that it matches the height of the front guards, but thats just my opinion. Best of luck with it!
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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That green thing would have to be one of the first cut down ute conversions that actually looks alright. They have made the body/tray flow.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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shakes wrote: That green thing would have to be the only cut down ute conversion that actually looks alright. They have made the body/tray flow.
It's a shame that more aren't built that well. It's not really a chop though (as in a trayback conversion) it's more of a tubed out tub.
It would be interesting to see what it looks like now though - it reckon there would be some funky flexing/stress going on between the stock panels and the tube rear. I reckon it would be a prime candidate to crack around the transition. Sierra bodies move a lot on the chassis and my guess is the tube won't be moving at all relative to the chassis.
Steve.
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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i never heard of the green sj again and its an pretty old topic
it maybe dead in the line off duty
it sure would be crackt if its still alive
@brenno:its going to compete next year in the www.noordelijke4wdchallenge.nl in an field of all l@ndr@vers.
so there is no need for big storage only some recovery materials
highjack groundanckor and that kind off stuff
unlike the lr i want it to be light, short and small
so i can drive where they get stuck

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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
Vehicle: SJ51T
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Trays looking good Brammie.
When you posted those videos of you in schuilenburg, you dont live near there do you? only ask because i was in Hellendoorn only a few weeks ago.
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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 Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:15 pm |
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i live only a 30 min drive from schuilenburg
hellendoorn is about 3 hours
nice wether in holland aint it?
its been raining all summer over here
only advantage is that the mud is coming soon
in a hole near you 
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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haha yeah i was given the heads up a few weeks before i got there so it didnt bother me to much. plus i love The netherlands. If i was to move to europe, i'd move there.
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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ow man don't even think of moving over here
don't get me wrong, your welcome
but think twice of all the bloody rain and cold shit we get over here
if i got to move somewere i would go to your side
hmm i feel a switch coming up
coverments are all the same so your screwed no matter were you life

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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:37 pm |
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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prestoch

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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:25 am Posts: 14 Location: Gympie
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looks good bud, nice work.
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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brammie
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:19 pm Posts: 41 Location: holland europe
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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